"The explosion happened at a distance of over twenty billion light years from Earth."
So, does this mean it exploded 20 billion years ago and we are just now seeing the light? So I wonder how we can see light from something that exploded billions of years before it was created 8000 years ago?
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"So, does this mean it exploded 20 billion years ago and we are just now seeing the light?"
Yes.
Easy, peasey. We just ignore your creation myth, follow the evidence and Presto! we see actual light from actual events which occured billions of years ago.
"So, does this mean it exploded 20 billion years ago and we are just now seeing the light?"
Yep. Very good.
"So I wonder how we can see light from something that exploded billions of years before it was created 8000 years ago?"
Damn. Ever so close to an epiphany and yet so far.
If someone spoke those exact words to me, I'd have no problem with the idea that he was pointing out the contradiction between literalist nonsense and the reality of the Universe. Where I DO have a problem is with the idea the burst happened 20 billion light years away. The Universe is not 20 billion years old, after all.
Surprisingly, Mulligan actually got one of the definitions, but alas he failed to follow through. So near and yet so far.
Also, 20 billion years ago, WTF?
If God created a perfect Universe, why would a star violently explode to begin with? It most certainly extinguished any potential life or habitat in it or surrounding star systems.
Secondly, for that star (in one of the most distant galaxies we are aware of) to be less than 8000 light years away, our own galaxy and stars would have to be so tightly packed that we would have been fried long ago.
What is it? 6,000 years or 8,000 years. That difference of 2,000 years is quite big. Like, the difference from when Jesus walked the earth until now.
That would be yes. See, even fundies come to logical, scientific, factual conclusions; even when they think they're being factitious. See how logical science, and facts, can be? They sneak into your mind no matter how hard you fight reality.
Labrat said
Ow, I though he was close to a breakthrough all on his own, but after you said this, I went to RR and saw the hmmm smilie. Very sad.
"I thought it was SIX thousand years ago?
At least try to keep your bullshit consistent."
It's all part of their plan. They keep ratcheting it up and hoping that no one notices, and then when they get up to several billion, matching current scientific theory (uh oh, there's that word again), they'll claim that that's what the Bible said all along. See what they do now with heliocentrism.
The location of the burst was rapidly pinpointed using the UK-built X-ray and Optical cameras on Swift. Dr Paul O'Brien, also of the University of Leicester and a member of the Swift Science Team said: "The explosion happened at a distance of over twenty billion light years from Earth. To detect a naked eye object from such a distance really is extraordinary."
That's according to the article posted there, from the Telegraph. But, a Nasa article indicates 7.5bya.
So I wonder how we can see light from something that exploded billions of years before it was created 8000 years ago?
I do too. Perhaps it wasn't created 8,000 years ago?
Here's another postulation:
You're a cunt.
Yup, that one works.
So close...
...and yet so far.
Good question. Now let see if something may be wrong here. Now, on the one hand,we know the speed of light as proved by science backed with empircal data and tested over and over, and, on the other hand, we have a book which documented oral traditions from goat herders in the bronze age. HMMMM. That is a tough one.
first, you're holding the assumption that this world was created 8000 years ago. second, Light-year is a unit of DISTANCE, not TIME.
Maybe it wasn't created 8,000 years ago. Idiot. Oh, wait. God magically created the light in transit, inexplicably, because we just -have- to have exploding celestial objects somewhere, and that pesky speed of light just won't sit down and shut up.
:Sayna
"I thought it was SIX thousand years ago?
At least try to keep your bullshit consistent."
'before it was created 8000 years ago?'
*Auctioneer's voice *
Aaaaaany advance on 8000 years?
image
Vegeta: 'OVER 9000!'
*bangs gavel *
Sold to the Saiyan Prince with the destroyed Scouter!
X3
please
do not mix your pretend science with real science.
you fucking fail Mulligan
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