Dorkman
"Fundies who believe in the Rapture believe that when you die, your soul goes into limbo, not heaven."
Not true at all. When someone dies who has accepted Jesus as their savior their soul goes straight to Heaven.
2 Corinthians, chapter 5:8
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
All at RR believe this.
Limbo is a Catholic belief. RR fundies believe the Catholic religion to be idol worship and heresy.
"Even being Raptured doesn't get you into heaven straightaway, it only takes you "out of the world" so you don't have to be involved in the Tribulation."
Again, not at all true. The Rapture of the church is where for the dead, the particles of what was your body will rise out of its grave and meets its soul in the air to be recombined and changed to an immortal eternal body. For those who are alive at the time of the rapture, body and soul together will rise into the air to be changed after those who were dead have gone first.
After meeting Jesus in the air to be changed we will go to Heaven to stay until the tribulation is over.
(Biblical proof that the concept of the rapture IS in the Bible)
Isaiah 27:19-21
1 Thes 4:13-18
1 Corinth 15:51-58
RR fundies believe in a PRE-TRIBULATION rapture. We will be leaving Before armageddon ever begins.
Romans chapter 5
9": Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
1 Thessalonians, chapter 5
"9": For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ"
Revelation 3:10
10: Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11: Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
"In this particular kind of eschatology, it's at the very end of everything, after Armageddon, that God decides who gets Heaven and who gets Hell."
Again, Nope.
God is the judge, Jesus is sort of like the prosectution and defense of the people.
Matthew 10:32-33
"32: Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33: But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Anyone who accepts Jesus's death on the cross as payment in full for all of their sins will not be judged. They have already been determined "Not Guilty".
Our lives will be examined by God for reward or lack there of, but salvation and eternal life is secure.
1 Corinthians, chapter 3
13": Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
"14": If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
"15": If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Judgement and Hell is for all unrepentant unbelievers dead and still alive at the time of judgement.
1 Corinthians, chapter 6
9": Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
"10": Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
"11": And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Salvation is for ANYONE who accepts Jesus as their savior. Christians are not without sin or perfect. Although there are many crappy "Christians" who would have you to THINK they are perfect.
Personally, I'm a miserable sinner. I have a perfect, handsome, and wonderful husband and I still struggle with the sin of lust. In thought only, but that is bad enough. However, I am forgiven and have the Holy Spirit who lives in me to help keep me from being overcome by the temptation to actually committ the sin of adultry.
Matthew, chapter 16
24": Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
"25": For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
"26": For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
"27": For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
What does take up your cross mean?
Everyone has a cross to carry: addictions such as porn, drugs, drink, and gambling. Then there is lust, or those who have an unnatural attraction to those of the same sex. This list could go on for days.....Whatever sinful behavior you are drawn to is your "cross".
Salvation brings forgiveness and gives us strength to carry our cross every day. Sometimes you may drop your cross and sin but you just have to pick it back up again and keep trying to overcome whatever sin temps you.
Salvation also gives the blessed hope which is the escape from wrath, and the promise of eternal life.
Don't you want that too?
Romans, chapter 3
"23": For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
"24": Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
"25": Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
"26": To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
"27": Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
"28": Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.