I stopped going to my ELCA church for several reasons....mostly because I
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I don't think John Lennon ever said he didn't BELIEVE in Christ, he just said that the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus," didn't he? I don't know, maybe I'm mistaking my blasphemers :P
Praise Jebus he's not doing Slayer songs, such as "Jesus saves"!
Seriously, these rapture freaks are fucking stupid.
Someone needs to tell these arseheads (I can't, because they banned me) that Hotel California has nothing to do with Satan or witchcraft or hell. It's about the music business!
Doesn't the Bible say something about gossiping? I can't remember chapter and verse, so I'll just go with my usual Exodus 20:16, bitch!
Your pastor did, as far as I'm concerned, what Jesus did, help the poor and the outcasts. Obviously, for you that's "liberal"
This is the problem with such churches. They don't worship. They perform. It's a Hey Mom, look at me, how wonderful I am" sort of situation. Same with Gospel choirs. They are forever clapping and jiving. It's all entertainment by and for those who were so piss-poor and lacking in talent that neither Hollywood or Broadway wanted them.
The head pastor
I think he needs to drop the 60s/70s hippy/easy listening shit and get some good three-chord brit punk! "into the Valley" FTW!
Bigger than Jesus does not mean not believing in Jesus. You can't compare yourself to someone or something you do not believe in.
That damn sinful pastor. He sang a Beatles song and an Eagles song to help raise money and food for hungry people. How dare he cross such a line? That's not what Jesus asked people to do.
The big question is, did he get permission from those who own the rights to the Beatles and Eagles music to perform those songs? If he didn't get permission, he committed a sin by stealing those songs and then I would say that you are entirely in the right to leave such a corrupt church.
We can't have our people growing up in churches where the pastors go to any and all lengths to help feed people and steal songs. Who knows what line they will cross next time around. Run, I say, run. As fast and far as you can. The devil will have his way with that sinful church and you don't want to get caught in the carnage.
Two excellent songs that will be remembered long after everyone's forgotten about neurotic 'Christian Rock'. (I will say this for Christian rock, it often requires being able to actually play an instrument or to be able to sing on key, and at least write _marginally_ original melodies and coherent songs.)
Accusing rock stars of being satanists is pretty standard fundie stuff. Alice Cooper based his whole career around that kind of 'controversy'.
Definitely stay away from him, he's obviously not a True Christian(TM).
Doing works by having a fundraiser for the poor? SINFUL He should be telling the poor that they're poor because they're sinful and going to hell. If they repent, god will give them money (if they have enough faith)
Everyone knows the guitar is the instrument of the devil (or is it the fiddle? or the drums? seems to depend on which fundie you talk to)
And of course John Lennon was the Antichrist, and any music that has ever been played on a popular radio station is automatically of the devil.
My advice is to run and hide in the nearest cave. Follow Lot's example. Just wait in there until God comes to get you.
We often get comments saying "This is fundamentalism in a nutshell", but I think that this quote sums it up better than any other. Here we have an event designed to actually put food in the goddamned stomaches of the hungry , and this arsehole is standing on the sidelines frowning at the moral implications of song lyrics. So based on this, they've turned their back on the event, and withdrawn their support for a Christian church that is actually doing something that could be called Christian, presumably in favour of a church where all the music is nice and non-secular.
I wonder if Diamond's new church have gotten around to having a fundraiser yet?
Diamond you are a lying sack of shit. You are not now and have NEVER been a member in an ELCA Lutheran church. In fact I seriously doubt that you have ever been in one. Rapture is considered a silly non-scriptural joke and "saved" is considered a man-made presumption of God's judgement by the ELCA. Lutherans have been one of the most liberal religions for about say, 35 YEARS. In fact I cannot think of any religious entity that would be more opposite your little right-wing fundie cult. Although, given the fact that Lutherans are far more charitable and Christian brotherhood oriented than your little self-righteous sect, I guess that they would probably treat you with polite amusement.PS My brother is an ELCA minister, so go lie somewhere else clown.
No, but John *was* calling for peace.
EDIT: @ Illuminatalie -- Alice Cooper turned into an Evangelical Christian. It shows in his (much) later works, starting with Brutal Planet. It's still good music, though, and the Christian slant isn't at all obvious.
Yeah, at least he's there trying to help a Food Agency that I assume feeds the poor, and you? Oh, right, bitching with you RR friends, hunkered down in your bunkers...
"I was really surprised at his
Seems he has good taste in musicians. Non -fundie Christians tend to, I find (my best friend is a Christian, and has all of The Beatles albums).
Diamond, a few questions:
1- Did your Jesus influence a generation of musicians, nay, the entire music industry as a whole?
2- Name one song personally composed by Jesus.
3- Has Jesus himself performed just one song, that is available via iTunes?
4- Does Jesus have an airport named after him?
If you can't, then John Lennon was right when he said that 'The Beatles are bigger than Jesus'.
Prove otherwise, Diamond (and everyone else on Ruptured Retards).
@Doctor Whom
It isn't but Christian tell themselves these things when they really like a song. At least the lyrics to Come Together are obscure enough it can be interpreted to a call to get along with everyone. Then again studies have shown most people don't know all the lyrics to songs they admit to loving and often listening to.
BTW, On my way to trying to find roots country band like the Ozark Mountain Daredevils one of the veins I found was bluegass renditions of AC/DC and Ozzy among others. Done in cheery bluegrass style they have a whole different feeling. I wonder what the Pastors gotten away with over the years.
I request XTCs Dear God.
@Amadaun
That was George solo, he was a Krishna fan.
Confused?
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