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The Argument from design.

Points on Earth which exhibits design.

1) Rotating Earth.
2) The sun shining on the earth at just the right angle to produce life and enough energy.
3) Just the right atmosphere needed for life.
4) Plants breathe out what we breathe in.
5) A cell can't form in one spot and then migrate to every place on earth to fill it with cells.
6) Ants can't do that either. How did ants get to different parts of the world?
7) Just the right atmosphere for the earth to produce grass for the cows to eat.
8) How did grass grow first? I don't see grass on any other planets. Hmmm. Thank God for that sun.
9) The miracle of childbirth. It can't just evolve like that.
10) The sun stays in the sky instead of falling down. Gravity should be pulling it down but it just stays right up there. Hmmmm...interesting.
11) We are smart. If we share a common ancestor with monkeys, I found it remarkable that we are so smart and they are so dumb. How did we get so smart?

These are all points for where a God is needed to explain them. No rational human being can think of a rational explanation for all of this. I hope I convinced someone.

Eternal, Internet Infidels 49 Comments [8/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Papabear

Amazing. My favorites are #10 & #11. Number 10 is soooo wrong and yet #11 he claims to be smart. I've got to stop reading it or I'll laugh myself off my chair.

2/24/2006 4:37:54 AM

CousinTed

Technically grass isn't really all that old. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't grass not develop until after the dinosaurs died out?

Also: The Sky is falling! The motherfucing sky is falling!

2/24/2006 4:52:21 AM

Julian

Oh me too papa!

Same favourites - same symptoms

2/24/2006 5:32:37 AM

Crosis

<<< 1) Rotating Earth. >>>

You think a massive explosion of matter is going to give it no angular momentum whatsoever?

<<< 2) The sun shining on the earth at just the right angle to produce life and enough energy. >>>

You do realize it shines at a different angle at each part of the Earth, correct?

You do also realize that with the Earth being approximately a sphere, the results would be the same no matter what direction the Sun was relative to Earth, correct? (Each place might be different, but there would be the same area hit by sunlight at any given angle as there is now.)

<<< 3) Just the right atmosphere needed for life. >>>

We wouldn't be here to talk about it if that weren't the case, so it's kind of silly to act surprised that it is.

<<< 4) Plants breathe out what we breathe in. >>>

That's called symbiosis. And there are plenty of other examples of it perfectly explained by evolution.

<<< 5) A cell can't form in one spot and then migrate to every place on earth to fill it with cells. >>>

Over a long enough time, yes it can. (Besides, how would you explain the spreading of life after the flood?)

<<< 6) Ants can't do that either. How did ants get to different parts of the world? >>>

See #5.

<<< 7) Just the right atmosphere for the earth to produce grass for the cows to eat. >>>

See #3.

<<< 8) How did grass grow first? I don't see grass on any other planets. Hmmm. Thank God for that sun. >>>

Doesn't the sheer number of planets that *don't* support life as we know it indicate that rather than having the entire universe designed for us, there just happened to be one (or possibly more beyond our ability to contact) planet out of the bazillions out there that allowed life as we know it to develop? I mean, if every planet was Earth-like and no good reason could be found for that to be true, that'd be much better evidence of God.

<<< 9) The miracle of childbirth. It can't just evolve like that. >>>

Argumentum ad wishful thinking.

<<< 10) The sun stays in the sky instead of falling down. Gravity should be pulling it down but it just stays right up there. Hmmmm...interesting. >>>

Take a physics class, dipshit.

<<< 11) We are smart. If we share a common ancestor with monkeys, I found it remarkable that we are so smart and they are so dumb. How did we get so smart? >>>

Monkeys aren't as dumb as you think, and humans aren't nearly as smart as you think.

5/10/2006 3:37:36 AM

Redhunter

Bloody hell.

I guess ignorance truly is bliss.

6/29/2006 11:16:29 AM

Alena

10) The sun stays in the sky instead of falling down. Gravity should be pulling it down but it just stays right up there. Hmmmm...interesting.

I tried so hard to take this guy seriously, but then I got to ten and just about cramped up from laughing so hard.

2/5/2007 10:12:57 PM

Blue Lithium

1) Rotating Earth.

Gravity?

2) The sun shining on the earth at just the right angle to produce life and enough energy.

Law of Large Numbers.

3) Just the right atmosphere needed for life.

Law of Large Numbers.

4) Plants breathe out what we breathe in.
5) A cell can't form in one spot and then migrate to every place on earth to fill it with cells.


It's called REPRODUCTION.

6) Ants can't do that either. How did ants get to different parts of the world?

Pangaia. Or convergent evolution.

7) Just the right atmosphere for the earth to produce grass for the cows to eat.

Grass, and cows wouldn't have evolved if the environment wasn't suitable.

8) How did grass grow first? I don't see grass on any other planets. Hmmm. Thank God for that sun.

Because plants with grass like qyualities were favoured, after a while grass evolved.

9) The miracle of childbirth. It can't just evolve like that.

What about the \"miracle\" of unviable pregnancy?

10) The sun stays in the sky instead of falling down. Gravity should be pulling it down but it just stays right up there. Hmmmm...interesting.

WTF?

11) We are smart. If we share a common ancestor with monkeys, I found it remarkable that we are so smart and they are so dumb. How did we get so smart?

Natural Selection.

2/6/2007 11:16:02 AM

Betsy Newson

You've convinced me! I'm convinced that the author is an idiot!

2/6/2007 11:40:23 AM

Niali

Okay, I'll give this a shot.

1) \"Rotating Earth.\" If you've studied any physics at all, you'd know that almost any spherical object that isn't under rigidly controlled circumstances ends up rotating. That's because any force that acts on it at all imparts rotation unless it's focused exactly on the sphere's center of mass -- and then, only if that's also its center of volume.

2) \"The sun shining on the earth at just the right angle\" The sun's precise angle didn't contribute all that much to the development of sustenance of life. Variances in axial tilt could have been corrected by variances in distance from Sol. This doesn't widen the odds much, but it's worth mention in light of Bode's Law, which predicts (correctly, for our solar system at least) where the planetary orbits would be.

3) \"Just the right atmosphere needed for life.\" Life could have developed under any atmosphere possessing an oxidizer half as energetic as oxygen, and no reducers or acids of equal strength. Silicon-based life isn't impossible, for example, and chlorine makes a wonderful oxidizer.

4) \"Plants breathe out what we breathe in.\" Evolutionists claim this one too, arguing that this symbiosis between animal and plant is actually evidence in favor of their theory. Until someone can demonstrate superiority in that debate, neither side gets to call this fact evidence. That means you.

5) \"A cell can't form in one spot and then migrate\" Its lifespan prevents it from populating the globe, but there's nothing stopping its descendants from eventually spreading to that extent.

6) \"How did ants get to different parts of the world?\" Arguably, they hitched rides on human transportation. Every ship that ever sailed carried parasites; you just can't get them all. If you think about it, most of our methods of exterminating pests prior to 1900 would have burned or sunk the ship.

7) \"Just the right atmosphere\" You're simultaneously recycling several of your previous arguments. They don't count twice.

8) \"How did grass grow first?\" It didn't.
\"I don't see grass on any other planets. Hmmm. Thank God for that sun.\" That sun shines on other planets, too. The defining characteristic for Earth is the biozone, that band of distance from the sun within which water is at the right temperature to be liquid.

9) \"The miracle of childbirth. It can't just evolve like that.\" No, but it's a logical extension of gamete meiosis, which we're pretty sure is how single-cell organisms reproduced a long, long time ago.

10) \"The sun stays in the sky instead of falling down.\" The sun is larger than the Earth by a huge margin. Gravity would pull the Earth into it, but centripetal force (look it up) prevents that from happening.

11) \"How did we get so smart?\" By questioning our assumptions and doing actual research, for one thing. Try it sometime.

2/6/2007 11:40:34 AM

Patrick

\"These are all points for where a God is needed to explain them. No rational human being can think of a rational explanation for all of this.\"

Try reading a Geology textbook.

2/6/2007 3:38:30 PM

Sandman

It is far more likely that life evolved because of these conditions than that these conditions were created so that life could exist. (And that thing about the sun not falling down is just monumentally stupid.)

2/6/2007 4:04:41 PM

JP

Jesus fucking christ. How can we expect these people to understand evolution, when they haven't even mastered gravity?

2/6/2007 4:49:06 PM

BurntBush

Sounds a lot like the banana thoery.

2/6/2007 4:54:31 PM

RFP15

I'm not that someone.

2/7/2007 5:29:21 AM

A Rodent Says.

Don't forget, on the atmosphere issue, that our demon science tells us that Earth's atmosphere went through several different changes in composition, most of which would kill us.

2/7/2007 5:38:21 AM

W.T Snacks

\"No rational human being can think of a rational explanation for all of this.\"

O RLY?

I've got one word for you: COINCIDENCE.

4/16/2007 9:33:45 PM

richard skidmark

You've convinced me allright.
Especially 11).

4/16/2007 9:37:00 PM

richard skidmark

\"How did ants get to different parts of the world?\"

They walked.

4/16/2007 9:38:12 PM

richard skidmark

Odds are there are billions of other planets with conditions similar to Earth. What are the chances that there exist lifeforms elsewhere capable of making computers and retaining so much stupidity at the same time?

4/16/2007 9:40:56 PM

anti-nonsense

Congrats you are an idiot.

4/16/2007 11:53:14 PM

Fish

1) It formed from a spinning disc and stuff crashing into one another. Odds are it'll spin a bit.

2) Where's the wrong angle? Anywhere will do. We're only where we are because the matter around the young sun formed a disc as that is an energetically stable shape.

3) Life caused that atmosphere. In fact, the presence of O2 in a planetary atmosphere is a sign of life on that planet, as O2 won't linger unless something continually produces it.

4) Plants (or algae rather) evolved on a world with a lot of CO2 on it. The respiring organisms came along when enough O2 was produced.

5) Yes it can. Wind can help that.

6) Same as 5. Also, ants can fly/walk.

7) See 3 and 4

8) The sun shines on 8 planets. Only Earth has grass. It's because we're in just the right place for life to grow. But, yes, thank god for the sun being as it is. If it were bigger or more temperamental, we would be shafted (if we had time to exist).

9) It obviously can.

10) I'm more relieved that we don't fall into the sun, personally. Either way, look up circular motion.

11) What's all this we? You still assume the sun hangs in the sky.

4/17/2007 12:52:30 AM

Finkel

When I read this I imagine the writer to be talking in a higher pitched caused by a drug induced euphoria.
So childbirth is a miracle but sex is a sin,...I just had to say it.

Well at least they understand that what the bible claims first to happen didn't.

4/17/2007 1:09:22 AM

Salvador

The sky is an optical illusion, dumbass.

5/21/2007 9:33:06 PM

Freboy

Eternal, your thinking priviledges are hereby withdrawn. The processes going on in your brain are a waste of good energy and oxygen.

Please meditate as much as possible.

5/21/2007 9:48:40 PM

Esjeur

Men have nipples. Case closed.

Plus, ever see those chimps and gorillas that know sign language? More intelligent than you.

5/21/2007 10:55:43 PM
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