Actually Jesus did not believe the Jewish beliefs since Judism is not Christianity. He was only born as a Jew but was not apart of the Judism faith.
Im still for Protecting Israel though. Even though they are not Christians they are still God's chosen people and i prefer them then the Radical Islamic Terrorists there.
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The problem is that Jesus didn't intend to found a religion, he just wanted to expand on what he believed. It was later that people took what he said, applied divinity to him, contradicted what he said, contradicted each other, and then created a new religion.
Jesus did believe in Jewish beliefs, in that he was supposedly the Son of the Jewish God! You cannot change the fact that Christianity came directly from Judaism...hell, your account of Jesus's magic act was bloody stapled on to the back of the Jewish holy book for crying out loud!
How dare you? Our Jesus was born Christian, just the same as every living being!</fundy>
... wait, that isn't right... umm lets try again:
<fundy> "BlArRgGhH *snort* RRRAAAARRrrrr JESUS!!!!!11!! [insert misc noises here]"</fundy> etc
A more comprehensive reading of the gospels would contradict your first statement, son.
It was Paul (a Roman citizen) who wanted to preach to the Gentiles (non-Jews, if you don't understand the term). Paul, in fact, began this whole Christianity thing. He expanded the application requirements, as it were.
Otherwise, the Jesus stuff would have remained as a small sect within Judaism much like Kabbalists.
Uuuuuhhhhh... The Jeez was an travelling Hebrew rabbi, according to the story. There were no "christians," because that's a Greek term (christos=annointed one). The followers of Jesus and the Jerusalem church they established wasn't christian, either--they referred to themselves as followers of "The Way," and were devout temple-recognizing Jews.
In short, YOU FAIL .
Okay, so in Luke 2 when Jesus is lost by his parents and they find him after three days discussing with the learned men and the rabbis in the temple, I guess they spent the whole time discussing the price of gefilte fish in Nazareth!
Wow, I think people who genuinely believe in killing in the name of God are even worse than people who use God as an excuse for killing.
Get the fuck off my planet.
I can't begin to tell you have much FAIL you have type out there. Jesus was a good Jewish boy, born into a good Jewish family, who chose not to follow in his family's business. WHy the hell do you think he was sneeringly called "King of the Jews" by the Romans?? To entertain you?
Fundies seem to value words above all else, so I'll try a non-logic strategy on this one!
"Judeo-Christian"
That proves that Judaism and Christianity are almost the same, and thus Jesus was Jewish in every sense of the word.
So if Jesus was a Christian, he'd be worshiping himself?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan, promote the worship of the self? =/
Could be wrong though.
Jesus was the FOUNDER of a new religion, Christianity(officially named so after his death), which is an OFFSHOT, SECT, OFFSPRING of the Jewish religion. I hope that clarifies SOMETHING.
You can be God's chosen people without doing what God wants you to do?
Osiris, the almighty first commenter, says it best.
I'm glad to know you have such person insight into Jesus and what he believed. I'm sure he sent you this information devinely; perhaps while you were sleeping or meditating.
Christians didn't exist yet. Christians are followers of christ; christ did not follow himself, did he?
"Actually Jesus did not believe the Jewish beliefs since Judism is not Christianity."
Yeah, Jesus didn't believe in the Abrahamic God! Can we add him to the list of famous atheists then?
When they took him to the temple when he was 8 days old, it was to get the snip. When he was in the temple at 12 it was his bar mitzva. The 'last supper' was a seder for Pesach (Passover). 90% of the quotes from the Gospels are him quoting from and discussing the Tanakh, even the famous quote on the cross "My God, my God, why have your forsaken me?" is the start of Psalm 22.
Not Jewish, my arse!
@ Blackvoice
Ah, but Jesus only celebrated the Passover in Matthew, Mark and Luke. In John he dies the day before Passover was to begin (in Judaism, a new "day" starts at sundown).
Of course, as any fundamentalist will tell you, that's not a contradiction! No sir, not even a little bit, its just that...well uhm...when you look at in in context then...see in those days...uh...YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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