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CT

His obsession with Roman Catholic tradition (praying rosary and self punishment among other things) marred what could have been a great character with Christian beliefs. Remove the rubbish, leave in the prayers (except for Rosary) and you have a Christian character, which would have been cool.


Catholics are Christians you dumb fucker!

Mister Spak

So enjoyable movies are not acceptable to christians?

They should have made nightcrawler a muslim, Storm a wiccan, have professor X and wolverine have a gay affair and watch the fundies heads explode.

Illuminatalie

The first time I heard the idea "Catholics aren't christian" I nearly fell off my chair laughing. (It was reported to me by a friend, who happens to be atheist, and who was raised baptist). He had heard that from an acquaintance in the US, and thought it was hilarious.

Now I think it's sad and kinda weird.

Ian

The Landover Baptist Church has their own guide to the movies... The official true christian guide that is...
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/movies.html
edit
just a taste
Superman returns:
"we only believe in one flying superhero. And He doesn't wear a skimpy bikini -- Superman's is so tight you can see if his genital herpes is in remission..."
**edit edit... it now occurs to me that the landover baptist thing is a fake site... oh well, shows i should read more carefully.

Mister Spak

Yes Ian, Landover Baptist.org is a parody. Which doesn't stop real fundies from quoting it as a source.

Ian

@Mister Spak I don't suppose you or anyone here knows how to delete a submission... I got a little carried away and posted a quote from landover... but now that i know it's a fake, I don't think it should be up on the board (hasn't actually shown up yet)

Aethernaut

I see, so watering down Nightcrawler's neuroses makes him a more interesting character... hmm...

In Bizarroworld maybe.

David B.

So I guess the interesting internal conflict between Nightcrawler's beliefs and his appearance passed right over your head then, Luke.

Of course, only true Christian(TM) can pray and be good guys. Thanks for offending everybody but your sect in general, and Catholics like me in particular.

Osiris

Oh no! This film reminded me that there are different Christians!

Brain_In_A_Jar

Remove the rubbish, leave in the prayers (except for Rosary) and you have a Christian character, which would have been cool.

Flawed characters make for good story, empathy and dramatic complexity. Cardboard cutouts are boring, predictable and unbelievable. Besides, the Roman Catholic church is well known for turning out confused, slightly unhinged people with strange obsessions (well, more so than most other denominations of Christianity); it's hardly as if the character is a misrepresentation and could never exist.

King Duncan

You're a moron.
PS: Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. The first one, in fact.

approximate

So, the screenplay wasn't written with Ned Flanders as the target audience.

Big fucking deal. Catholics exist. (and they're christians too) Deal with it.

mtsbspidey

wait...so it was nightcrawler's catholic beliefs that made this offensive to christians and not the whole mutants-are-the-next-step-in-human-evolution aspect?...man i will never have these people figured out

Christ Punch

Yes - let's remake every movie to contain only Christians. I am always saying "People who bring babies to R rated movies, people talking incessantly, over-priced concessions, over-priced tickets, unknown substances on your pants from the theatre chairs - is just not enough to make me stop going. I need more."

And they giveth.

Looking at your rating I realize that you are an anti-Catholic creep(probably without benefit of reading suetanus's posts which might have given you some justification) and you do not know the meaning of the word Christian. Christian means believing in Jesus Christ as a savior("Rapture" and "saved" are actually minority dogma, considered non-scriptural nonsense by most Christians). PERIOD! Nothing else determines a Christian by the Bible.PS You might try NOT reviewing movies, you aren't really worth a damn at it.

Septic Sceptic

I am offended by things that acknowledge the existence of different people! I only attend a film if I know it has an entirely WASP cast!

DuckSoup

After reading this post and seeing dozens of others like it, expressing the same sentiments regarding Catholicism, I'm almost tempted to do the unthinkable. Defend Catholics.

I was raised Catholic, christened, confirmed, communion plus just for good measure I was an altar boy and got to wear those lovely flowing robes. (No, before anyone asks, there was no buggery, no inappropriate behaviour by any priest I knew)

Whilst I reject teachings of the Catholic church now, I in no way condone the hatred spewed by Mr Smith, nor any other person expressing the same opinions.

I can't believe just how ironic it is to have a person who claims to strongly believe in the teachings of Jesus accusing their fellow Christians of being practically inhuman. (He hasn't stated 'inhuman' but many others have implied it.)

We (whom I am guessing have no love for Christianity) are having to defend and educate Christians regarding the truth about fellow their Christians.

If you want to know why there are priests who abuse young boys, bishops who cover it up and general acts which most people would consider to be 'evil' all prevalent throughout Roman Catholicism, the answer is simple. Celibacy.

Not having sex, which is the most natural of instincts and urges is bad enough. Being given a position of power and trust within a community (i.e. being a priest), brings you into contact with members of the opposite sex in a closed environment (i.e. confession). If you can't then act on feelings of love which might develop from these moments of intimacy, which everyone has, are denied sex which you body is pumping out masive amounts of hormones to try and get, you're going to end up with more than one long term problem.

Fundies advocate absinence, i.e. no sex. It's the no sex rule which attacts all of the weirdos to the Catholic church in the 1st place, takes a heavy toll on the minds of those priests who have a genuine belief and those who just want to help people.

Demonising Catholic's for their beliefs is more than retarded it's (insert appropriate adjective). Demonising them when you claim to worship the same God they do and then advocating the same behaviour which caused the Catholic church their problems in the first place (i.e. Abstinance), is well....fundamental, I suppose.

Truthuser

Shut up, Jesus Fanboy

cyborgtroy

"marred what could have been a great character with Christian beliefs."

I have some friends like that.

Also, marred by not showering often enough or eating weird-smelling food.

And marred by always farting.

Geez, now I hate that guy! Thanks, Luke, you freaking jerk!

Tomby Stone

Wow, a character in a movie who worships all the exact same deities as you but does it in a slightly different way ??? Man, that IS offensive. Sometimes I wonder how you Christians can cope with such persecution.

Blayze Kohime

So if it had no Christians at all would it have been less offensive than one Catholic Christian?

Catholics are Christians, moron.

Antichrist

Put him on a soap box babbling about the end of the world and you'll have the real Christian.

Don't know who would want that character in a movie though (unless you drop a piano on his head).

Xotan

The Rosary consists of the Gloria, the Pater Noster and the Ave. All of these, except for a few words in the Ave, are in the Bible... So the Rosary is a biblical prayer. Moreover it's for meditating on Biblical events...

This all tells me you are a bigoted soul. Pray the Rosary for forgiveness.