(Arguing against voluntary euthanasia)
I seem to remember hearing or reading that at some point in time, the elderly, the crippled, the brain damaged were separated from the young, healthy and strong to be herded into gas chambers. Hmmmm
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I seem to remember reading at some point in time a leader of a country said he was working for god.
"I intend to set up a thousand-year Reich and anyone who
supports me in this battle is a fellow-fighter for a unique
spiritual I would say divine creation...Rudolf Hess,
my assistant of many years standing, would tell you:
If we have such a leader, God is with us."
-- Adolf Hitler --
Hmmmmmmm
You Fundies just take the cake, don't you?
You will demand a child be born to a crack-addicted illiterate by refusing her an abortion, but once the child arrives, you don't care if it has a decent home or food to eat or is even treated with the barest of decency. When the child grows up addicted and commits crimes, you demand the harshest penalties possible...the death penalty just makes you rabid rat foam at the mouth, doesn't it? But if the guy gets a long prison sentence develops an agonizing disease and wants voluntary euthanasia, suddenly "life is sacred" and he can't pull his own cork.
And god forbid it should be some kindly old lady writhing in the agonies of terminal cancer...you'd put an old dog out of its misery when it can't even tell you if it wants to die or not, but Grammaw just has to suck it up.
What is WRONG with you people?
That was called Hitler, his Final Solution, you know.. the Nazis. You are equating genocide, with choosing when to end ones own pain.
"I seem to remember hearing or reading that at some point in time, the elderly, the crippled, the brain damaged were separated from the young, healthy and strong to be herded into gas chambers"
You seem to forget about the fact that Jews, gypsies, blacks, and homosexuals were also herded into the gas chambers as well...and that voluntary euthanasia is not the same thing as the systematic execution of groups of people. Nice try, but still fail.
Voluntary? How many volunteered for the gas chambers? Do you have sources for that information?
Voluntary is not the same as being forced. Volunteers would not have to be herded.
Why don't you volunteer for some testing on the subject.
@Sweet Violet
A-freakin'-men.
Back in Jesus' day, those humans who were not capable of handling life on their own, died without much of a fuss. There were neither the means nor the reason to keep them alive.
If a child was born defective, it was left outside the city gates to die. Hmmmm.
This right-to-life garbage is only a side effect of the medical technology that allows damaged or defective people to live beyond any natural expectation.
You know the Nazi's tried to export the Jews first. But nobody else (US included) wanted to deal with Germany's "Jew problem".
I always love how modern history makes Germany out as the only antisemitic nation that ever existed.
Also, there's a difference between offing anyone under 12 and over 60, and giving people the option to die in peace with minimal suffering. If I had terminal cancer, I may just break into a vets office to get some Euthanol.
As a person with a "living will" allowing my wife or children to pull my plug if a machine is all that is keeping me alive, I feel perfectly qualified to say, "Mind your own fucking business. Have a nice day."
There was an excellent article in the UK's Independent about the Bish of Durham's Easter Sermon.
It went on about how the Catholic Church is based on obedience, so when you get to the top of the tree everyone laughs at your jokes etc etc and, to quote, 'nobody tells you when you're talking balls'.
Except for one teensy, tiny difference. One, people are asking for death...usually because their very existence is painful. The other is people being murdered, their lives taken against their wills.
Said action (Aktion T4) was based on, & a logical extension (to the Nazi Regime), of the Eugenics laws passed in several states within the U.S in the 1920's, which had the disabled forcibly "committed" & sterilised against their will...
One irony was one of the people who pushed through these laws, in the U.S during the 1920's was himself subjected to the law he created, after he contracted Leprosy, (presumeably from a 9-banded armadillo), & as a result, died in a asylum, after being sterilised...
...and those "young, healthy and strong" were worked hard until they died of typhus, exposure or starvation. Yes, we all know that. What does that have to do with the brain-dead, or terminally ill people in excruciating pain, who want to end their lives on their own terms?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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