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my wife's wisdom teeth
...or lack of them.


My wife stands at 5'1 and, like most small/short people, has small features. Luckily for her she has no wisdom teeth...(probably because her head is small and has no room for them.) When she was 12, her dentist took xrays and informed her that she'd never have problems with wisdom teeth because she didn't have any to break through.

This is interesting to me, because both of her parents had their wisdom teeth taken out years ago.

Now if you're to listen and believe in ToE, you would believe that certain organisms just happen to be born with certain traits, and, if the said traits were beneficial (aka helped them breed more successfully) this is how the population evolves. And the thing is, "fit" parents are supposed to be passing on their "fit" traits to their offspring. If inheritance was not true and parents did not necessarily pass down specific traits according to whatever lucky genes they happened to possess, then ToE is thrown for a huge loop, as the offsprings' traits would be more of a biological crapshoot as opposed to a representation of their parents.

But my wife's parents both have wisdom teeth. So how and why did she end up with no wisdom teeth?

Also, everyone's heard the imaginary scenario that evos dreamed up about cheetahs, whereby faster cheetahs are more likely to breed, thereby supposedly having faster offspring...(which is how cheetahs came to be fast)..... But how does ToE -- or the laws of genetics -- stand if both parents have a physical trait, (such as speed or wisdom teeth), yet their offspring ends up not having it???

Supersport, CARM 61 Comments [4/8/2008 12:59:36 AM]
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Necronomikron

"But my wife's parents both have wisdom teeth. So how and why did she end up with no wisdom teeth? "

I guess this tard has never heard of recessive genes.

4/8/2008 1:07:40 AM

Old Viking

Wisdom teeth are, in fact, becoming noticeably less prevalent. You know. Like your brain cells.

4/8/2008 1:07:57 AM



This nutjob's married?

4/8/2008 1:08:08 AM

Nibien

And what is your expert take on dwarfs, perchance, my utterly insane and unintelligent foe?

4/8/2008 1:18:31 AM

Grand Archblasphemer of York

FAIL!

Once again, you mention a scenario that potentially supports the mechanisms of evolution in an attempt to disprove it. The ToE stands when children have the possibility of losing traits because only those without bad traits and who still possess good traits survive and breed with efficiency.

4/8/2008 1:22:20 AM

Mayhem

Humans are evolving away from having wisdom teeth, which are a throwback trait largely unneccesary now. They are hardly a "fit" trait, unless you're dumb enough to believe that wisdom teeth have anything to do with actual wisdom.

4/8/2008 1:22:51 AM

Nowonmai

The lack of wisdom teeth is a recessive genetic trait. That is all, not proof that evolution is wrong, you nitwit. But I do believe it will probably become a more common trait until having wisdom teeth is the recessive trait.

Also, from an engineering standpoint, cheetahs can only run so fast. Again, not proof that evolution is wrong.

4/8/2008 1:24:36 AM

Heather

It's sixth grade biology/science. Recessive genes. Pick up a middle school textbook and get back to us.

4/8/2008 1:29:49 AM

Detrs

Were her parents tall as well?

4/8/2008 1:30:04 AM

Horsefeathers

"my wife's wisdom teeth
...or lack of them.


My wife stands at 5'1 and, like most small/short people, has small features. Luckily for her she has no wisdom teeth...(probably because her head is small and has no room for them.) When she was 12, her dentist took xrays and informed her that she'd never have problems with wisdom teeth because she didn't have any to break through."


Woohoo! Evolution in progress. Your wife has a genetic mutation that's beneficial. Congratulations.

"This is interesting to me, because both of her parents had their wisdom teeth taken out years ago."

Aaaand?

"Now if you're to listen and believe in ToE, you would believe that certain organisms just happen to be born with certain traits, and, if the said traits were beneficial (aka helped them breed more successfully) this is how the population evolves."

More or less. It's not quite accurate but, hell, look who's explaining it.

"And the thing is, "fit" parents are supposed to be passing on their "fit" traits to their offspring."

Essentially. Even "fit" traits, as you put it, are subject to further mutation that could render them null or even detrimental.

"If inheritance was not true and parents did not necessarily pass down specific traits according to whatever lucky genes they happened to possess, then ToE is thrown for a huge loop, as the offsprings' traits would be more of a biological crapshoot as opposed to a representation of their parents."

Why do you play stupid when it comes to evolution if you actually have a reasonable grasp of it?

"But my wife's parents both have wisdom teeth. So how and why did she end up with no wisdom teeth?"

See what I mean?

"Also, everyone's heard the imaginary scenario that evos dreamed up about cheetahs, whereby faster cheetahs are more likely to breed, thereby supposedly having faster offspring...(which is how cheetahs came to be fast)..... But how does ToE -- or the laws of genetics -- stand if both parents have a physical trait, (such as speed or wisdom teeth), yet their offspring ends up not having it???"

Mutation you fucking moron.

4/8/2008 1:31:01 AM

BreeStar

Hey, Superdork. Allow me to introduce you to my friend, Mr. Mendel...

4/8/2008 1:54:52 AM

tmr

I have a typically genetic malformation in my ears called Otosclerosis. Neither of my parents nor my grandparents had the malformation. Why didn't I get my parents and grandparent's good ears? Why do I suffer from a malformation of the inner ear, that is typically inherited, when no one I could have inherited it from suffers from the condition?

My mother and father both have blue eyes. Yet, my sister has green eyes. Why is that?

Can you say recessive genes? Once you pronounce it, define it, and rewrite your assignment, please.







4/8/2008 1:56:29 AM

DW

maybe your wife's mother had an affair with a dwarf?

And as you say all small people have small features, does that mean you have a small cock for her small vagina?

4/8/2008 2:12:26 AM

GigaGuess

@488427

Worse. He's reproduced, too.

4/8/2008 2:18:53 AM

cyborgtroy

"My wife stands at 5'1 and, like most small/short people, has small features"

I sense you are about to insult short people. Go on.

"Luckily for her she has no wisdom teeth...(probably because her head is small and has no room for them.)"

Yeah, because vestigial traits are based on your size. I'm really short for a guy, so I didn't get an appendix.

*reads next part*

Um, mutation, stupid. Either that or wisdom teeth are dominant, but her parents were both recessive carriers.

Maybe you should think it through some time.

4/8/2008 2:20:07 AM

Truthuser

Look up Mendel. You'll be surprised, 'specially cuz he was a monk...

4/8/2008 2:34:36 AM

Truthuser

Look up Mendel. You'll be surprised, 'specially cuz he was a monk...

4/8/2008 2:34:42 AM

Mattural Selection

The scariest part of this is that supersport is married.

My girlfriends father's first set of teeth were razor sharp. They came out naturally and another set of razor sharp teeth came up. Then they fell out naturally and a normal set of teeth grew up in place of them.

[This is true. I've seen photos of him as a child, and he kept most of his early teeth... there are more than can be in just one set.]

4/8/2008 2:39:43 AM

Moondog

I am short, but slightly tallter than my mother, who had two short parents, and my great- grand-mother was very short, so I can trace this trait back to a French-Canadian family. I had my wisdom teeth taken out, as did the rest of us, to the best of my knowledge. Small features? Other than having to stretch fo a shelf or grab a chair to change a light, nous sommes normales, merci.

4/8/2008 2:53:20 AM

Andreus

So many words, so little meaning.

4/8/2008 2:56:20 AM

nfp

All this proof of evolution you're swinging around, ss--wisdom teeth and such--and it just goes *whoooosh,* right over your head.

We call that "willful ignorance" in the trade.

4/8/2008 2:57:06 AM



And my husband is 6'3" and has never developed wisdom teeth so what exactly does your wife's size have to do with this?

4/8/2008 3:07:58 AM

Antichrist

This nutjob's married?
Has three daughters too......

Lets look at the wisdom teeth scenario if there was no medical intervention.

People born without wisdom teeth would be out dating at a time the people with impacted wisdom teeth would be rolling around in pain. These people who are able to date, will breed. Those with the impacted teeth may die from infections. so more people will be born with the recessive gene to not have wisdom teeth.

Cheetahs: It's not so much that a cheetah wants to date a faster one. It's that the faster ones can run down the most game, therefore they're the best fed, therefore they're better breeding stock. And will pass on their fast genes to the future generation. The slow cheetahs starve to death. It also works with the prey. It works the same with the prey animal, the faster/smarter ones get away from the cheetahs and are able to breed.

4/8/2008 3:08:41 AM

Evilutionist

Recessive genes Nthed.

4/8/2008 4:04:33 AM

onoma

genetics is not a simple game of bigger & better. Oh wait, this is supersport, why even try?

4/8/2008 5:25:08 AM
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