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You need to go back and read the posts. The question is NOT vague at all. If you exist, were you created? It cannot be any simpler or clearer. If you are created (by means of sperm & egg) then, there must have been a creator. Going back through a long line of making out, the must have been the "original" egg and sperm. That must  have self-created (logically impossible) or been created (by God). It is EXACTLY like pregnancy.

That's the problem with you atheists. You lose yourself in all your little doubts and assumptions and "it depends on"s. If you don't want to open your eyes, nobody can help you understand us.

Macbeth, Christian Forums 16 Comments [8/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Papabear

Just because evolution isn't simple enough for you to grasp doesn't mean that it is wrong. Plenty of qualifiers and \"depends on\" clauses are quite valid.
I do like your idea of \"a long line of making out.\" Is that some group sex version of a receiving line?

2/24/2006 4:50:54 AM

Julian


Out out damn spot!

(Damn shame I can't recall any relevant speeches about the more you try to wash it away the bigger the stain becomes)

Macbeth - STFU!!

2/24/2006 5:37:26 AM

Redhunter

\"nobody can help you understand us\"

You got that right. What the fuck are you on, buddy? Were you watching 2001 while sniffing gold spray paint?

6/29/2006 10:59:20 AM

Rahab

So according to Macbeth, God knocked up the universe?

I do believe in God creating everything at some point (as well as evolution, mind you), but this analogy is just, well, weird.

4/19/2007 4:38:58 PM

anti-nonsense

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Learn some science please.

And no, I can't understand you, I can't get my head that far up my own ass.

4/19/2007 4:41:31 PM

Mike

Interesting. This is a way of expressing the old \"Unmoved Mover\" argument by Aristotle that I had not heard before.

Of course, anyone with a lick of sense knows that this argument is fallacious. Specifically, it is a special pleading. It requires a cause for all things in the world and then asserts that a thing exists with no cause.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

4/19/2007 7:34:45 PM

GigaGuess

The only thing that can help me understand you is a couple bong hits, methinks.

4/6/2010 10:00:41 PM

Swede

My mum and dad created me. A few million years ago the tree split into monkeys and apes. A few hundred million years ago the tree split into animals and plants. A few billion yeas ago organic matter started multiplying on their own. 15 billion yeas ago the Universe started expanding in a Big Bang.

Why would I want to understand you dolts?

4/23/2010 1:19:07 AM

ecoline

Ah, the joys of absolute truth! Honey, if you can't handle existential uncertainty, you're free to say so. You're also free to admit you know about as much about biology as the average satsuma.

4/23/2010 6:54:07 AM

Canadiest

And that creator,,,,,sprang from,,,,,,absolute nothing.

Evolution claims we came from the planets materials over a fuck-load of time

Physics claim OUR universe came from energy and matter, from a singularity that was once another universe. An endless push and pull of physical forces is the NORM in our present universe. To suggest what is, is static and unchanging, is folly.

Change is inevitable, nothing is forever, except matter and energy: which change

4/23/2010 4:54:18 PM

JohnTheAtheist

But god self creating is perfectly logical, amirite?

4/23/2010 5:57:41 PM



Does God exist? So who created him?

6/3/2011 11:15:40 PM

Canadiest

Somehow you think your have an iron-clad argument when you never provide evidence. There are literally thousands of Gods in mans cultural stew, most of which have creation stories of equal or greater scope than your Bible. Some of these ancient myths from Sumeria, Babylon or Egypt ARE your Bibles creation story amoungst other rewritten tales. The fact of your Bible having two Genesis stories that differ are evidence of combining older tales.

You can doubt the evolution theory as much as you want but your stupid, hand me down religion has no bearing on it or any other aspect of reality.

6/4/2011 12:17:05 PM



And of course, that creator just HAS to be the deity you worship, right? You can't even provide scientific evidence for your god or anyone else's, so STFU.

6/4/2011 2:28:57 PM

Tempus

Yes, nuance IS hard, Macbeth.

6/4/2011 3:20:11 PM

Saika

If you want to know how the egg and sperm evolved, read The Selfish Gene. Actually, just read the Selfish Gene.

1/3/2012 5:43:17 PM
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