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You have evidence of change WITHIN an animal group, i.e. dingos, coyotes, heanias, & poodles are different 'species' of dog, but the are all dogs. None of them have bunny ears, webbed feet, feathers or hooves.

Big Dave, FaithForum.org 15 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Hyenas are not dogs. They are actually more closely related to cats.

7/14/2007 10:49:21 PM

"None of them have bunny ears, webbed feet, feathers or hooves."

Yup, the fact that dogs don't have bunny ears, webbed feet, feathers or hooves disproves evolution alright! Back to the drawing board for us heathens...

7/14/2007 10:51:51 PM


Do you know what a species is?

7/14/2007 11:16:09 PM


No, they are different species of canine and if any of them had those things that define entirely different branches of evolution then we'd have problems.

7/15/2007 12:51:36 AM


Try looking at the paws of a Labrador Retriever sometime.

7/15/2007 5:07:12 AM


There are lots of breeds of dogs with webbed feet including some breeds of poodle.

7/15/2007 5:45:37 AM

Professor M

Ah, it's the old strategy of talking about "kinds" which cannot be transcended through evolution.

It's goalposts mounted on an F-16.

7/15/2007 1:34:43 PM


actually, come to think of it, a dog with webbed feet would be awesome. however, this isnt going to happen anytime soon simply because CANINES DONT CARRY THE GENETIC TRAITS TO HAVE THEM, YOU OVERSIZED DILDO!

7/15/2007 3:13:33 PM


"Try looking at the paws of a Labrador Retriever sometime."

i didnt even know dogs had webbed feet

7/15/2007 3:14:52 PM


Dumb cunt's never heard of Fennec Foxes either.


7/15/2007 10:19:38 PM


...None of them have bunny ears, webbed feet, feathers or hooves."

No, but you have the brain of a cockroach, so macroevolution is REAL!!!

7/15/2007 11:30:35 PM

Brian X

Oh, where do I begin?

First off, you can't spell hyena, which isn't a canid anyway. Not to mention dingos, poodles, and coyotes may all be the same species anyway, since they're close enough to interbreed. (Don't believe me? Ask an animal control officer on Cape Cod sometimes. Our coyotes are mutts with a decent chunk of wolf in them.)

Now, let's see what we can do with this... okay, dachshunds. Very short legs, slim body, overall a very distorted body plan for a dog. Beagles, normal proportions, but small with big floppy ears. Basset hounds, apparently crossbred with an upholstered ottoman. Poodles, extremely curly and coarse fur, nicely adapted to water conditions (poodle and puddle are, I believe, cognate). Coyotes and wolves, very pointed faces; shar peis and pugs, very short and compact faces. Irish Wolfhound, built like a tractor-trailer; greyhound, built like a solar racer.

The fact that they can all interbreed doesn't gainsay the fact that we're talking about some very different animals here. In any case, there's a bit of borderline speciation here and there anyway -- it really, really wouldn't be a good idea to inseminate a chihuahua with Great Dane sperm, for example. Yes, they're all dogs. It's taxonomy. And it's artificial selection, but natural selection is the same thing without the direction of an intelligent actor.

7/16/2007 12:31:53 AM


Brain X
I have a Bassett hound and thet made me lol.

7/16/2007 2:10:15 AM


What's he trying to say again?

7/16/2007 12:03:16 PM


Hyenas are more closely related to cats than to dogs, and more closely related to mustelids (weasels etc.) than to any other carnivore. Biology fail.

(Do the ears of a fennec fox count as bunny ears? What about the retractable claws of a gray fox, they prove anything? What about the webbed feet of mustelid otters?)

11/13/2008 9:11:11 PM

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