Abstinence only is so good at teaching our kids about sex, lets use it for other things as well... like gun control.
4/29/2008 7:38:49 AM
Re: Mattural Selection
No guns until you're married?
Or you just not allowed to shot one until you buy it?
4/29/2008 7:51:09 AM
Planned Parenthood, like the ACLU, like your organisation, well, LIKE ALL THE FUCKING ORGANISATIONS OF AMERICA, receive a tiny contribution from the government. The rest is made up from anonymous donnors. And it is where your theory sinks.
4/29/2008 9:03:27 AM
Concerned mothers for America? The same nutheads that want America to solve it's (and the world's) problems by military force instead of peace treaties and trade?
4/29/2008 9:20:16 AM
If you want to teach abstinence, get a fucking degree first. Then they might actually NOT have the OPPOSITE effect.
4/29/2008 9:26:23 AM
The point of condoms is to prevent unwanted pregnancies, and thus prevent abortions. The Frightened Cows of America have failed their children.
4/29/2008 9:31:41 AM
"Planned Parenthood is dependent upon federal funding for its survival, and it is now a billion dollar industry that profits from providing abortions to those it is supposed to be serving."
Wait, so Planned Parenthood is Dependant on federal funding to continue its existence, but it rakes in billions from abortions? How does that work?
4/29/2008 9:34:39 AM
Using condoms and birth control meds = less pregnancies
Less pregnancies = Less abortion
No condoms and birth control meds = more pregnancies
More Pregnancies = More Abortions
4/29/2008 9:49:01 AM
Damn suburban scum.
4/29/2008 9:56:01 AM
Planned Parenthood is dependent upon federal funding for its survival, and it is now a billion dollar industry that profits from providing abortions to those it is supposed to be serving.
It's painfully obvious you're just hurling as many accusations as you can, without once thinking whether they make sense or don't contradict each other. You imply that PP is both a parasite drawing off tax money, and also an evil corporation making huge profits by exploiting the customer. You can't both be making a tidy profit and entirely dependent on grant funding at the same time, idiot!
4/29/2008 9:57:07 AM
of course, to follow her programme you have to be straight. Teh gheys don't get a look in.
Fuck you Crouse, you're pushing your babble with federal funding
4/29/2008 10:01:15 AM
They are putting the interests of huge money-making organizations ahead of the well-being of the nation's children and adolescents. Planned Parenthood is dependent upon federal funding for its survival, and it is now a billion dollar industry that profits from providing abortions to those it is supposed to be serving.
No, they are putting the health and safety of children and adolescents ahead of profits(and prophets, as the case may be).
Planned Parenthood provides abortion on request, it's not a force procedure. PP makes more money on GYN examinations, sex and couples counseling, and providing birth control. Yeah, I know, the truth fucks up your Fundie Agenda rant, doesn't it?
4/29/2008 10:11:11 AM
It is beyond time to expose the financial records and highlight the lack of effectiveness of all those leftist non-governmental organizations that claim to work 'for the children,' when their policies and programs are so detrimental to children's futures.
Basically: "You are havin' that baby for Jesus, bitch!"
4/29/2008 10:23:09 AM
If you are concerned about preventing abortions then go to google and type in contraceptives. You will find there are a variety of products that can prevent men & women from making a baby together. Remember knowledge is power.
4/29/2008 10:38:59 AM
The callousness of those who support ignorance based sex education is astounding - they are putting the interests of huge money-making fundie organizations ahead of the well-being of the nation's children and adolescents. The fundie mafia is dependent upon gullible sheep for its survival, and it is now a billion dollar industry that profits from witholding information from those it is supposed to be serving. It is beyond time to expose the financial records and highlight the lack of effectiveness of all those wingnut non-governmental organizations that claim to work 'for the children,' when their policies and programs are so detrimental to children's futures."
4/29/2008 12:40:33 PM
Um, you realize how quickly the PP people would be in jail if they were actually making profits?
4/29/2008 12:56:41 PM
Actually, sex education is about the kids; it's about making sure they know how to protect themselves. It's about making sure they do not make mistakes that could cost them their lives.
It has nothing to do with any money making organization. Fundies have serious issues with anyone who actually does make money, so you are taking two of the evils in your mind - sex and money - and combining them to come up with an argument that is beyond ridiculous. There isn't one thing you said that is able to stand on its own.
And, if you knew a damn thing about Planned Parenthood you would know that, according to their own annual reports, for the past seven years, 33% or less of their income comes from government grants. The rest comes from their own revenue and private contributions. So, um, no; they are not in any way dependent on government grants. If they lost that money from the government, they certainly wouldn't cease to exist.
Face it, everything you disagree with is not a mass governmental conspiracy. Often, you are just plain fucking wrong.
4/29/2008 1:06:27 PM
Isn't Planned Parenthood like nonprofit or something?
It seems like it's nonprofit.
Besides, I didn't learn anything in sex. ed., my parents aren't going to tell me, and I haven't bothered to check the Wikipedia. I feel like I lost out on something that I should know about.
4/29/2008 1:47:19 PM
Good sex education = less unwanted pregnancies, less STDs, less abortions, less kids fucking up their futures by having to drop out of school, and less psychological damage to kids because they feel okay to be different.
There is no downside.
And of course, good sex education should also include letting kids know that it's fine to choose abstinance if they wish to. It's their choice.
The 'abstinance only' route leads to a bucketload of guilt and low self-esteem, not to mention higher rates of unwanted pregnancies. And you are looking at a lifetime of sexual disfunction when you make people so ashamed of their bodies and natural urges.
Why can't these morons get that?
4/29/2008 2:04:38 PM
Jezebel's Evil Sister
"... It is beyond time to expose the financial records ...
It's already been done, dumbass.
During the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2007, monies from the federal government made up 30.23% of Planned Parenthood's operating revenue, and that includes payment for services and not just grants. How do I know? Because I looked at the financial information included in the annual report right there for anyone to see on Planned Parenthood's website and I did the simple calculation. Took a total of less than 2 minutes.
4/29/2008 2:38:16 PM
Another reversal of positions.
Planned Parenthood already exposed its records long ago and only a small fraction of it goes into abortion - most of it goes into giving away birth control.
It, by far, helps teenagers instead of "hurting their futures", since some girls would have to sacrifice a productive career for caring for an unwanted baby.
4/29/2008 2:47:52 PM
Planned Parenthood is non-profit.
4/29/2008 3:01:21 PM
"a billion dollar industry that profits from providing abortions"
how does one profit by providing abortions? does kfc buy the chunks, bread them and put them in that new famous chicken bowl thingy? god i hope not. not that i'd buy one anyway.
4/29/2008 3:32:26 PM
1 in 4 teens has an STD.
Deal with it.
4/29/2008 3:49:25 PM
Planned Parenthood is dependent on federal funding and is a billion dollar industry? What are they in the oil market now?
I'd rather a child knew about birth-control, STD's, and abortions, so they could carry on to college and get good jobs and have choices in their lives. Your plan has them married at 18 and working at Arby's to support a kid they never wanted in the first place. That's if they're lucky and don't catch anything nasty. I know women who caught an STD as a teen and didn't get it taken care of because they didn't want their parents to find out (small town), they're now sterile. But I guess you just see that as Gods punishment.
4/29/2008 5:22:19 PM