QUESTION FOR ALL
I have been to a few weddings lately were God is completely absent from the ceremony. The Bride/Groom do not want God, Christianity, or any form of religion mentioned in anyway. They want a strictly secular, practically atheistic ceremony.
The question is: Does God view these marriages as "legit"? Is the couple REALLY Married in Gods eyes? Are they living in a constant state of adultery even though they made a vow to honor and love each other forever? What about marriages in other religious traditions? Do Islamic, Buddhist, etc marriages "count" in God's eyes, or are they null & void when it comes down to it.
My Wife and I were just curious
(and yes, we got married in a Church)
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My husband and I got married in a church too, and our wedding ceremony was non-denominational. Who cares if it's legit in God's eyes? It's legit in our eyes, the eyes of our families, and the government's. That's all that matters.
I had a secular wedding on the beach. Eveny my fundie inlaws said it was the best wedding they had ever seen.
"Is the couple REALLY Married in Gods eyes?"
No we are not married in Gods eyes. Because of that whole non-existant thing it is hard to get him to show up at a wedding.
From my point of view you are the one that had the fake wedding.
And why is it any of your business, Doublezero?
Stop trying to impose your spurious morality on the rest of the universe.
Going strictly off of what's posted here, I'm not sure this is particularly "fundie." It would be a valid topic for theological debate, if you're into that sort of thing.
Just my POV: the question in and of itself is not particularly fundie, but I'd wager a lot of possible responses will be.
Since people invariably turn to the state, not god, whenever they actually need to invoke their marital rights or handle a marital dispute, it doesn't fucking matter whether your god recognises the union or not.
Why don't we just leave it to the bride and groom, shall we? They're the ones pledging themselves to each other, after all. It's really no one else's business - including your fantasy deity.
And, if they are both of age, only the government needs to recognize the legitimacy of the contract. All others are extra.
I have been to a few weddings lately were God is completely absent from the ceremony. The Bride/Groom do not want God, Christianity, or any form of religion mentioned in anyway. They want a strictly secular, practically atheistic ceremony.
I'm not atheist, and I'm nowhere near of claiming to be a christian. But if and when I ever do get married, I'd want a secular wedding as well. Marriage as someone has stated in an earlier post is a business arrangement. Always has and always will be. That's why they have prenumptual agreements.
It's none of your damn business anyway whether other marriages are legit in your supposed god's eyes.
"and yes, we got married in a Church"
Well whoop-de-fucking-doo.
Why would they care? If they chose to be married without any mention of god or religion it was pretty obviously a conscious choice and they couldn't give a flying fuck if god thinks it counts or not.
I'm on of 'em. I was married outside a barn, at an outdoor historical museum. I was married by a non-denominational pastor - and that was simply concession to my in-laws - who mentioned god once, if I am not mistaken; the ceremony was written and chosen by us so we were able to control the content. The only prayer in the entire 20 minute ceremony was an Apache (heathens) wedding prayer.
And, I am as married as they come. If god doesn't like it, it's his problem, not mine.
I have been to a few weddings lately were God is completely absent from the ceremony. The Bride/Groom had a christian wedding. They want a strictly secular, practically anti-God ceremony.
The question is: Do the Gods view these marriages as "legit"? Is the couple REALLY Married in the Gods eyes? Are they living in a constant state of adultery even though they made a vow to honor and love each other forever? Do Thor and Isis frown upon christian marriage?
Much, much better.
You know, when my husband and I were married,Harry Potter was completely absent from the ceremony. The question is: Does Harry Potter view our marriage as "legit"?
Oh what a joy it must be to having every action supervised and approved by a fictional character.
The Bible says nothing about marriage "in the sight of God". It offers no definition one way or another about what marriage is or isn't - it just assumes people know what it is. Eve is described as Adam's "wife" (Gen. 2:25). Who "married" them?
The idea of marriage as something that has to be done "before God", or in a church, or in front of some sort of priest or pastor, or in accordance with some religious ritual, was an invention of the Roman Catholic church. It's been carried forward into other Christian denominations.
Marriage is a civil arrangement. The Roman Catholic Church got in on it when it saw there was money to be made. Protestants, in their time, followed suit. If there were a God I doubt if he's give a rat's posterior about the social arrangements of hairless primates.
When you're married to someone, you are married to someone. Religion needs no involvement.
Cite me a Bible passage that tells you marriage is only for Christians. I bet it doesn't even exist.
Since I got married in a secular wedding back in 1986, I can tell you for sure that I don't give a flying fuck what your imaginary friend thinks. If this god thingy has a problem with it, the thingy can come and talk to me mano-a-mano.
I'll ask my parents but I don't think they care what god thinks, and you should not care what the couples who were getting married are doing. It doesn't affect you. I don't plan on getting married, but I will say this: All that matters, marriage or not is that the people love and are committed to each other
The question is: Does God view these marriages as "legit"? Is the couple REALLY Married in Gods eyes?
The only time said marriages are deemed 'not real' is if they are same sex marriages, and then you fundies implode saying it's desecrating marriage. You want it both ways.
Your god needs to get a life.
I mean, get him World of WarCraft and hope he gets addicted. Even that kind of debilitating obsession would be an improvement on his stupefying obsession over inane minutia.
Oh, good for you. My wedding will not be in a church, and if some god-damned fundie like you tries to bring up god during our ceremony, you will be removed. Because it WILL be an atheistic ceremony.
whats so bad about what he posted? it seems like a valid thing for christians to be debating amongst themselves.
its not like he went up to them and was like "God doesnt recognize your marriage, FILTHY ADULTERERS! BURN IN HELL!!!"
#513818: "whats so bad about what he posted? it seems like a valid thing for christians to be debating amongst themselves."
Yes, I know christians often obsess over what other people do that's none of their business and that many of them wish to make everyone else conform to their narrow beliefs. That's why I have no use for these type of christians, other than to mock and refute them.
Well, if, as the fundies like to point out, marriage is really "between one man and one woman", then it's Christian marriages that "do not count", since they are marrying one man + one woman + 1-3 Gods: scandalous!
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