Quote# 38367

*about a student getting kicked out for not saying the pledge*

If you won't pledge to your country why should your country give you a free education?

Autumnleaf, Student booted from school after refusing to recite Pledge of Allegiance 47 Comments [4/28/2008 7:23:12 PM]
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Taxes.......even if you don't pledge allegiance to the flag people still pay taxes.

4/28/2008 7:28:35 PM


Man I wish education was free.

4/28/2008 7:31:43 PM


Coz this country is whack, man.

4/28/2008 7:34:58 PM


Surely forcing people to recite the pledge of allegiance is a gross insult to the very freedom which the USA supposedly stands for?

4/28/2008 7:36:07 PM


Glad to note that the administrators recanted their decision AFTER the student had her lawyer give them a call.

4/28/2008 7:41:03 PM


Freedom of speech means you're also free NOT to speak

4/28/2008 7:47:38 PM


Why should I pledge to the flag? Once should be enough. It is a pledge of ALLEGIENCE, afterall.

4/28/2008 8:15:30 PM


If I lived in the states, I'd say the pledge, but I would say "one nation, indivisible" as it was originally written.

Of course that's not good enough is it.

4/28/2008 8:16:06 PM


Because you have free speech. He has the right to not recite the pledge, and the fact that you kick him out shows how little our nation is starting to value freedom.

4/28/2008 8:36:50 PM


I can say the pledge then use it to wipe my cum off after I masturbate. I say insincere pledges all the time.

True patriotism is through actions, not some silly words (which reminds me...)

On that note, this ain't exactly fundie. Ultraconservative maybe, but not quite fundie.

4/28/2008 8:40:00 PM


Yeah, you understand how free society works.


4/28/2008 8:56:24 PM


You will notice that you're not pledging to your country primarily. You're pledging to a gaudy piece of fabric first.

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution and the Republic which it has created. I like the flag but it's just a symbol similar to the cross for Christians. It may be made to stand for a lot of things but, in the end, it's just a symbol - not the thing itself.

4/28/2008 8:56:57 PM


You also have the freedom not to say the pledge. If I was ever kicked out of school for refusing to say it, I'd have some lawyers on them so fast...

4/28/2008 9:27:00 PM

Doctor Whom

Which part of "with liberty and justice for all" is proving to be such a difficult concept? Do you even understand the pledge that you've turned into an idol?

4/28/2008 9:31:32 PM

Because there isn't any law requiring you for?, because most people who study in the States are not American citizens?

4/28/2008 9:31:42 PM


Because I'm a citizen? Because I pay taxes? Those aren't good enough reasons? Or perhaps just because educated people, even those who won't pledge allegiance to a piece of fabric, are good for the country on the whole?

4/28/2008 9:33:42 PM


Kid, you can always move to Europe.

4/28/2008 9:55:35 PM


If you won't pledge to your country why should your country give you a free education?

So if your father is temporarily transferred to France and you move there for a year and attend public school, you'll have no problem pledging allegiance to the French flag?

4/28/2008 10:50:27 PM


The founding fathers would be revolted that we have a mandatory pledge. Ben Franklin would personally take a shit on the guy who came up with the idea.

4/28/2008 11:00:19 PM

Old Viking

It's kind of like religion. "Say you love your country, kid. Say it. Say it or we'll fork you over good."

4/28/2008 11:10:53 PM


Second Pyroclasm's comment.

I'm not from the U.S. and seeing film of schoolkids - waaaay too young to understand what they are actually saying - pledging alliegance kinda creeps me out a bit. It kinda reminds me of films of North korean kids pledging to thier leader ... or old style USSR 'young pioneers' doing the same thing.

4/28/2008 11:16:28 PM


Public Education is paid for by taxes, it's not free you dick.

4/29/2008 12:13:06 AM


I wonder if this person would pledge to any country they were in or whether they would only do it to America. And the Constitution is why. Remember that if they don't say the pledge, though I personally disagree, it goes under free speech. Which is in the Constitution. As such the student is a greater patriot than you

4/29/2008 1:13:28 AM


Wow...that almost makes sense...

4/29/2008 1:22:46 AM


Odd, I haven't pledged in months, and yet I never get in trouble for it :P

4/29/2008 2:42:13 AM

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