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[in reference to Matt LaClair, the student who recorded his history teacher's inane religious ramblings last year]

Matt does not rock, he actually sucks. What wasnt mentioned was that Matt staged the teacher into talking about religion and in several tapes that were posted publicly, you can hear the teacher saying "should we go on with this or is anyone uncomfortable with this subject" and not one person said that they were uncomfortable. And then Matt proceeded to ask the teacher what his opinion is. The teacher point blank said, "well my opinion is if you reject the lords salvation you belong in hell"

And also, how canyou applaud a meer teenager who put a parent and husbands career on the line. And not only did he stop there he thought it was nessecary to sue the whole school system of Kearny. Your in a history classroom, your going to talking about religions. Actually your first history class at kearny high is about all the different religions that are practiced in the world. And the teacher whom I've had for history class, is a straight forward guy he would liketo think he can answer stude

katiebabieex3, YouTube 49 Comments [4/29/2008 11:25:34 PM]
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pete

Obviously katie failed English.

4/29/2008 11:28:54 PM

aaa

No comment.

4/29/2008 11:29:25 PM

Mike

Wow, you missed the point entirely.

4/29/2008 11:38:28 PM

Antichrist

Is the actual teachers rant around? I think I saw it, but I can't remember. Can't find them on YouTube either.

I can applaud this mere teenage, simply because he was a teenager who was willing to stand up for himself.

4/29/2008 11:53:38 PM

Allegory for Jesus

Matt did not stage the teacher, and the recorded instances weren't the only case of him talking about religion. Saying that the teacher was talking about religion in the context of teaching the history course is patently wrong, in that it occured over an inordinately long period of time, delved far too much into the specific doctrines of Christianity, along with delving into the Creationism and evolution debate with a clear bias towards Creationism.

The reason why he is applauded is BECAUSE he is a mere teenager who was gutsy enough to speak out against a teacher abusing his position and violating the First Amendment in order to instruct his students in the gritty details of Christian faith for years on end. And he did all this despite the flak he was going to and has received. It may not have been obviously so, but what that teacher did was wrong, and should not have been done.

4/29/2008 11:55:05 PM

Hadron


LOLZ, MAT IZ WUN OV UZ!

4/29/2008 11:55:59 PM

jc

He got death threats you tool. It's not like he was doing it for lulz.

4/30/2008 12:00:15 AM

ChildeofMalkav

The only classroom that you can talk about religion is Humanities.

History is based off of facts, not fairy tales.

4/30/2008 12:01:53 AM

A. Person

Can I HaS GraMMar?

4/30/2008 12:12:55 AM

Philbert McAdamia

It seems to me there have been other people that denied ever saying the things that they've been recorded saying, or that they were taken out of context, or entrapped.
Saint Ronnie Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, John McCain, Dick Cheney...or am I mistaken?

4/30/2008 12:16:16 AM

Pyroclasm

Audio!

Sorry for the horrible quality.

4/30/2008 12:23:03 AM

Fanatic-Templar

You're. You're.

You uneducated semi-literate chimp.

4/30/2008 12:44:57 AM

Amanda

I think she had a stroke at the end there.

4/30/2008 12:47:13 AM

tmr

Did you take English when you took that history class?

4/30/2008 12:53:10 AM

John

He recorded the teacher as evidence after the teacher had repeatedly violated the First Amendment. This is no different than what a person would be asked to do by the FBI after complaining to them about being approached for a bribe - get the person to repeat it on tape. If this had been part of a history of religions class approved by the school's curriculum committee, the teacher would have had nothing to worry about and Matt would have made a fool of himself. That's not what happened. Instead, the teacher made a fool of himself.

4/30/2008 1:07:34 AM

cyborgtroy

@Amanda: Youtube appears to have cut off her comment and she was too dumb to notice before she posted. Or after, since I guess there wasn't a second half.

4/30/2008 1:08:09 AM

Fek'lhr

The Mighty Fek'lhr loves you fucking guys! J00 MAK3 B4SH1NG T3H FUND33Z 2 MU(H FUN!!!!!!!!

4/30/2008 1:30:00 AM

werewolf

Grammar, Spelling, and English Composition would be of help to understand and comprehend World History, katie.

4/30/2008 1:58:53 AM

Riin-thrall

'The teacher point blank said, "well my opinion is if you reject the lords salvation you belong in hell"'

I call hate speech.

4/30/2008 2:01:30 AM

clockworkgirl21

"A meer teenager?"

What, teenagers aren't people now?

4/30/2008 3:13:40 AM

WMDKitty

OMFG FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/30/2008 5:02:14 AM

Brian X

Who cares if he's right? He rebelled against authority! That's a far greater sin than inappropriate proselytizing!

As for "parent and husband", you could easily make the same argument about arresting John Gotti or Dennis Rader, so I really wouldn't go there...

4/30/2008 5:27:24 AM

Silortan

"Your in a history classroom, your going to talking about religions."

Ya and James Keegstra taught his social studies class that the Holocaust was fraud and that the Jews were trying to destroy Christianity through sympathy. Hate speech is hate speech.

"And not only did he stop there he thought it was nessecary to sue the whole school system of Kearny."

Damn right they're gonna sue the school district - they're the ones that are responsible for the teacher's hiring and the wellbeing of their students; and they fucked up!

4/30/2008 6:42:12 AM

F

@Amanda, cyborgtroy:

katiebabiee concluded with:
"...a stendents question with out an immature student threatening his career."

4/30/2008 6:58:15 AM



You apparently never went to highschool, judging from your spelling. Which explains your ignorance. The burden of proof, from a legal point of view, of not breaking the first ammendment lies on the teacher, not on the student. If he asked him to talk about religion, he should have refused to continue. The teacher is an authority figure, so he has to be more careful about keeping the rules. Second, it's not crime to ruin somebody's carreer if the person has deliberately broken the law. It's like saying that Bill Gates is guilty of the rise on bank frauds by displaying his wealth and having a philantropic organisation.

4/30/2008 8:20:30 AM
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