you are a stupid homophobic fuck. die in a fire
5/16/2008 8:57:03 PM
And how much of this did Concerned Woman Matt Barber take out of context?
5/16/2008 9:16:43 PM
Wow, we're back in 1982 and I didn't knew!
5/16/2008 10:33:46 PM
Imagine my surprise when I found that there actually was such a study. Of course it was taken out of context, but that's par for the course.
"Modelling the impact of HIV disease on mortality in gay and bisexual men.
Hogg RS, Strathdee SA, Craib KJ, O'Shaughnessy MV, Montaner JS, Schechter MT.
British Columbia Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS, St Paul's Hospital, Vancouver, Canada.
OBJECTIVE: To assess how HIV infection and AIDS (HIV/AIDS) impacts on mortality rates for gay and bisexual men. METHODS: Vital statistics data were obtained for a large Canadian urban centre from 1987 to 1992. Three scenarios were utilized with assumed proportions of gay and bisexual men of 3%, 6% and 9% among the male population age 20 years. For each scenario, non-HIV deaths were distributed according to the assumed proportion of the total population (3%, 6% or 9%) but 95% of HIV deaths were distributed to gay and bisexual men as this is the proportion of AIDS cases in gay and bisexual men in this centre. The main outcome measures of interest were age-specific patterns of death, life expectancy and life expectancy lost due to HIV/AIDS at exact age 20 years, and the probability of living from age 20 to 65 years. RESULTS: Estimates of the mid-period gay and bisexual population ranged from 5406 to 16,219 for the three scenarios, and total deaths in these men from 953 to 1703. Age-specific mortality was significantly higher for gay and bisexual men than all men aged 30-44. Life expectancy at age 20 for gay and bisexual men ranged from 34.0 years to 46.3 years for the 3% and 9% scenarios respectively. These were all lower than the 54.3 year life expectancy at age 20 for all men. The probability of living from age 20 to 65 years for gay and bisexual men ranged from 32% for the 3% scenario, to 59% for the 9% scenario. These figures were considerably lower than for all men where the probability of living from 20 to 65 was 78%. CONCLUSION: In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871."
5/16/2008 11:08:18 PM
Cool... "gay" activist flat-earthers and homosexual AIDS holocaust deniers... A Non-sequitur weird-ass conspiracy contest! Can I try?
Ummm... Sodomite eco-fascist lesbian Papist Mormons, Bilderberg Wiccan NWO-worshipping transsexual Darwinist guppies and Atheist hollow-earther Catholic Muslim caribou-fucking Satanists.
That about covers it, I think. What do I win?
5/17/2008 3:09:38 AM
African heterosexual monogamic women and children are still wondering what the hell failed with that research.
12/27/2009 7:33:10 AM
In fact, multiple studies have established that
homosexual conduct engaging in risky sexual behaviors promiscuously, especially among males anyone, is considerably more hazardous to one's health than a lifetime of chain smoking.
2/27/2010 2:59:08 PM
Well given that women live on average longer than men, and using JMB's logic, masculine conduct shortens our lifespans also.
So I guess we should all act effeminate to prolong our lives, isn't that right "J. Matt"?
2/27/2010 3:58:23 PM
Fundamentalists are masters of projection. If one accuses a relatively sane person of doing something horrible, the fundamentalist has done it at least twice in the name of his god and a few times more because they're just terrible human beings.
6/2/2011 9:33:54 PM
"In fact, multiple studies have established that homosexual conduct, especially among males, is considerably more hazardous to one's health than a lifetime of chain smoking."
Only if you live next door to Matt Barber's house.
6/2/2011 10:49:03 PM
There are two major risk factors for HIV: intravenous drug use, and unprotected vaginal/anal sex with somebody who has a penis. Secondary risk factors are heterosexual vaginal intercourse for men, and some of the more medically-specific contexts of having oral sex with someone who has a penis.
HIV isn't a <i>gay</i> thing -- it's a vector-specific thing, and the disease-transfer vectors mostly involve either intravenous drug use or sex with someone who has a penis.
(And once again: the definition of anal sex as the definitive gay male sexual activity -- i.e. the highest-risk sexual activity among men -- is a heterosexual imposition, which has been aggressively promoted in place of the more traditional gay male focus on less-risky oral sex. So the initial high rate of HIV infection among gay men is largely due to heterosexual cultural imperialism. Lesbians, meanwhile, are at significantly lower risk for HIV infection than heterosexuals -- keep up the good work!)
6/3/2011 12:42:52 AM
I think the 'if the same pattern of mortality were to continue' is kind of essential there. Because what that study actually shows is that AIDS kills you and got its start in North America among the gay male community some twenty years ago. Given it's no longer confined primarily to that population, all we're left with is 'if you get AIDS you will die sooner.'
Which doesn't actually require a study.
6/21/2011 12:56:17 PM