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(just picking few pearls from a great article)


This is the fallacy of bifurcation (false dilemma). Some secular astronomers argue that there are only two options: steady state and big bang; steady state cannot justify the cosmic microwave background, so they conclude the big bang must be true. But, of course, there is a third alternative: the Bible is true.

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"If supernatural explanations are allowed, which would we use?"

How about the one written by the God who actually created the universe, knows everything, never makes mistakes, and never lies?

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Actually, every experiment we perform demonstrates the truth of the Christian worldview, and the falsehood of others, such as Buddhism and Hinduism.

Jason Lisle, Answers In Genesis 52 Comments [6/1/2008 5:42:24 AM]
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Happymealungen

"If supernatural explanations are allowed"

NO! Next.

6/1/2008 5:49:33 AM

D Laurier

How stupid do you have to be to be a fundie....

6/1/2008 5:53:26 AM

aaa

Palm, meet Face.

6/1/2008 5:53:47 AM

FMG

1, The bible has as much truth as the end of the world being due to a giant wolf...

2. If the bible is 100% right. Then God cannot fight us. With our iron...

3. I don't think you can beat hinduism. Its inclusivity ensures it cannot be disproved. It never claims your god does not exist. There are many ways to enlightenment. Which is a fairly nice view to have.

6/1/2008 5:57:06 AM

Beeblebrox

How about the one written by the God who actually created the universe, knows everything, never makes mistakes, and never lies?

Horus? Brahma? Kronos?

6/1/2008 6:06:37 AM

S

AiG do experiments

*shock*

6/1/2008 6:18:14 AM

Patashu

I'd like to see them conduct an experiment that disproves buddhism.

6/1/2008 6:18:47 AM

german atheist

Wow, that guy has a Ph.D. Probably in bollocksonomy or something.

6/1/2008 6:19:11 AM

Detrs

No.

6/1/2008 6:23:16 AM

Mike

Riiiight... I'm sure the experiment and your findings are falsifiable...

6/1/2008 6:38:43 AM

LordJiro

God never lies, eh? What about that biggy, the "As soon as you eat this fruit you will die"? And four legged insects. And rabbits chewing their cud.

6/1/2008 6:45:49 AM

atrasicarius

"Bifurcation?" That sounds more like something you would do in bed. Yay for fundies inventing new words.

6/1/2008 7:14:07 AM

Brian X

Did you know that you can take letters out of sUPerNaTural to get PUNT?

6/1/2008 7:16:46 AM

Freboy

Well, we did find and insect with six legs... but other than that I guess...

6/1/2008 7:38:39 AM

SimpleDon

Wow - it just gets better.

“It is ridiculous to argue that a supernatural explanation is wrong because it cannot be explained by natural causes.”

It is ridiculous to argue that a supernatural explanation is worth considering. -- fixed

6/1/2008 7:41:45 AM

Antichrist

And the FSM? You can't deny the FSM!

6/1/2008 7:47:35 AM

Quantum Mechanic

And a fourth, you're full of shit.

6/1/2008 7:48:19 AM

Eden

Actually, every experiment we perform demonstrates the truth of the Christian worldview, and the falsehood of others, such as Buddhism and Hinduism.


I wonder wether he might share insight into the nature of said experiments ;)

Factum is that the bible contradicts itself so much (for example the 2 stories of creation) that, even if supernatural explanations might be allowed, there woul dbe no reason to assume that the process of creation took place as stated in Genesis.

6/1/2008 7:49:27 AM

BeemerRefugee1990

@ atrasicarius:

No, it really is a word. It means something like "split in two," most usually used to describe the shape of a shark's tail.

Other than that, this one's a certifiable yo-yo.

Shipwreck/Bazooka '08. Because they can't be any worse than whatever we're eventualy gonna end up getting.


6/1/2008 8:51:02 AM

Eden

How about the one written by the God who actually created the universe, knows everything, never makes mistakes, and never lies?


Addendum:
Looks like he doesn´t even read his own holy book.
Else he would have known that genesis mentions god lying to the humans.
He told Adam and Eve, they would die if they ate from one of the 2 forbidden fruits. As we know they de facto didn´t die, as the snake spoke the truth when it informed Eve about the fact that the fruit from the tree of knowledge would give her knowledge, not death.

Sometimes it is useful to really read the holy books instead of just listening to the things the preachers say ;)

6/1/2008 8:54:48 AM

anevilmeme

Fundies hate evidence.

6/1/2008 10:04:40 AM

Princess Rot

The Cosmic Microwave? Thats a new one. Its like god threw a bag of microwave popcorn in there, and two minutes later, ding! The universe was made, in all its caramel-flavored goodness.

6/1/2008 11:48:36 AM

Mister Spak

"How about the one written by the God who actually created the universe, knows everything, never makes mistakes, and never lies? "

Oh, OK. That would be Allah.

6/1/2008 11:51:51 AM

szena

Every experiment you perform demonstrates the truth of the Christian worldview because everyone who works there signs a statement saying that they will assume the truth of the Bible in everything they do.

See how that works? If you promise that you'll never explore anything that goes against the Christian worldview in your work, you have to close your eyes and ignore anything that doesn't. Everything demonstrates the truth of your worldview by default only.

6/1/2008 12:20:57 PM

CT

Actually, every experiment we perform demonstrates the truth of the Christian worldview

No really?? Do you think that might be because you deliberately ignore any evidence that contradicts your conclusion?

6/1/2008 1:18:31 PM
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