Faith is the ultimate test, not truth. Faith is the belief in the trustworthiness of an idea or deity that cannot be proved. By that standard, those most likely to go to heaven are those whose faith denies things easily proven scientifically, like the age of the earth, the rotation of the planets around the sun and the evolution of whales from land mammals.
Saying that Unitarians accept that Jesus Christ was of virgin birth and could walk on water, however unlikely those miracles are to be true, is not the same standard of faith since there is no way to repeat the experiment, verify its scientific impossibility, and yet believe it anyway.
Why would anyone want to be a Unitarian and run the risk of not going to heaven when you can become an evangelical Baptist and reject science entirely?
Posted by: Paul at May 29, 2008 02:37 PM
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So you are morons.
1. As the story goes... "But it does move!"
2. The age of the earth makes it far more interesting. Your 6000 years is weak compared to its nigh on 6 billion years.
3. If whales evolved from sea animals then they would have gills.
You cannot reject science as a human being. We are alive because of science. A sharpened stick is science. So is fire. We are human because of our technology. Your faith is of little use in the wild.
Faith is the ultimate test, not truth.
I think this needs to be chiseled into the lintel over the door of every church in the world.
Why would anyone want to be a Unitarian and run the risk of not going to heaven when you can become an evangelical Baptist and reject science entirely?
I think our legs are being pulled here. I'm not sure whether to cry in despair or applaud and hoot with laughter in appreciation of a great put-on.
At this point, I held down the Z-button to lock onto Paul, and then pressed the C-up button. According to my fairy, Paul is a poe, and a bloody huge on at that.
Why would anyone want to be a Unitarian and run the risk of not going to heaven when you can become an evangelical Baptist and reject science entirely?
This one made me really laugh :D
Maybe you should free a state in he bible belt as a reservation for evangelical fundamentalists who want to live in total rejction of science.
What about Arkansas or Alabama?
You erect checkpoints at the borders of said state, where people visiting the state have to deposit all of their modern technological belongings (cars, handies, laptops and the like [everything only allowed with a special permit for scientists who want to study the behavior of christian fundamentalists in the free so that the reservation doesn´t get polluted with technology]).
No modern transportation except horse drawn coaches and carts are allowed in the reservation and the lifestyle will be like in medieval european times (with the same medical standards).
Trade between the reservation and the rest of the USA would be a strict goods exchange with them delivering things like crop or livestock and getting goods that don´t violate the technology barrier in return, for example wood, iron or various animal or herbal products.
This way eberyone would be happy. The fundamentalists would get a chance to live a life without pollution by science and the rest of the USA would get rid of their most fundamentalist christians.
Right then, prove your faith and get off the internet, sell everything you own that was invented after 300AD, eschew modern transportation and medicine, and go live in a cave.
Ok, I have trouble telling whether quotes are Poes or not at times, but this one is running across the internet, waving a sign that yells "IM A POE!!"
Someone tell me why this was approved.
By your logic, I should be rewarded for having utmost confidence in things that have no apparent basis in reality. The less readily supported or even logical it is, the better. So, if I believe in the Jeria radioactive pirahna-eagle-chimps from the core of Pluto who play a bizarre card game with deck of 148 gundurom (the 309th element on the full Periodic table, circa 2843) plates, with the sequence of cards played affecting the nature of our existence, then I should be rewarded far more for such faith in the Jeria's influence over fate than simple belief in your resurrecting man-god magician.
But, of course, according to you, faith is only rewarded if you have faith in your particular religious doctrine? And how do you know that this is correct? That's right...faith.
And, the fact that you believe that one only truly has faith if they are willing to accept literal doctrine that is contradicted by science is a testament to your own glorification of ignorance and foolishness than the legitimacy of those less faithful than you.
Oh, wow. Rejecting science entirely? What the heck kind of worldview do you need to reject science entirely? (Aside from the Amish, but even they follow certain precepts of science that they can't deny.) Remember, the Theory of Evolution is a theory, much like the Theory of Gravity.
Hmmm. Good point.
Then again, why would anyone want to be an evangelical Baptist and run the risk of rejecting all rationality in favour of blind faith, when you can become a Unitarian and at least have a stab at reconciling your spiritual faith with empirically observable truths?
It's a tough call, I know.
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