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[RE: the Christian marine in trouble for proselytizing to Muslim Iraqi citizens... it starts so good...]

If he was on duty he should be held accountable for his actions. If he was off duty then he shouldn't be handing tracks out at such a vulnerable place making a distraction opening the check point to be more vulnerable. But if the spirit had prompted him to do this, then he must submit to Gods' will. Who knows which one of those muslims might convert and cause a domino effect as a result of those coins. He needs our prayer and support not condemnation, no matter what your understanding of the constitution says.
GOD first, everything and anything other than Him is just static.

lilbitsyspider, Rapture Ready 35 Comments [6/1/2008 6:38:00 AM]
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FMG

Amusingly these are the same people who whine when we teach their children science...

6/1/2008 6:44:12 AM

KatAutumn

What this Marine did was careless. My husband is a former Marine and one of the things they taught them in Infantry School is being respectful of other cultures and religious observations while being stationed abroad. This Marine could have jeopardized his platoon by doing this. The fact that the fundies over at RR feel that saving a few "Muslim souls" is worth jeopardizing our troops is appalling, but I'm not surprised by their response.

6/1/2008 6:45:37 AM

aaa

More likely event: Sunnis and Shiites unite and start pounding American forces.

6/1/2008 6:46:59 AM

Ambrielle

Sounds more like the devil prompted him to do such a stupid thing.

6/1/2008 7:09:18 AM

Eden

They should apply the traditional tests for witches to determine wether Satan made him do it, or the holy spirit.

Maybe the water test is a good idea.
He gets tied up and thrown into a river. Then it is checked wether he floats on the water (meaning that he is possessed by Satan) or sinks (meaning that there is no possession by Satan and he might have done it under influence of the holy spirit).
Of course in he latter case, there might be a certain chance that he might drown (as was often the case when this test was used in medieval times for witch trials), meaning that the declaration of innocence might come posthumous.

6/1/2008 7:38:21 AM

Antichrist

And if the Muslim decided that this was an attack on his religion and that the Americans should be punished for their insolence? Would that be God's will as well?

It's a powder keg over there, doing stupid shit like that will more than likely get somebody killed.

6/1/2008 7:50:15 AM

Thinking Allowed

On duty or off duty, he should not be prostylizing to the Iraqi citizens.

6/1/2008 7:58:35 AM

Thinking Allowed

Eden said:
He gets tied up and thrown into a river. Then it is checked wether he floats on the water (meaning that he is possessed by Satan) or sinks (meaning that there is no possession by Satan and he might have done it under influence of the holy spirit).

It would be easier to see if he weighs as much as a duck.

6/1/2008 8:00:33 AM

Eden

GOD first, everything and anything other than Him is just static.

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Even the old greeks knew better than yourself:
Panta rhei ("Everything flows")
is something Heraklit postulated as soon as 500 BC,
meaning that everything in this universe changes.

Sounds like you are backwards even compared to the knowldge of the time in which Jesus lived ;)

6/1/2008 8:48:31 AM

Nowonmai

And you would be screaming blue bloody murder if it was a Muslim proselytizing to Christian citizen, regardless if he was on duty or not.

Hypocrite.

6/1/2008 8:52:58 AM

Darn

@Thinking Allowed

But only if we use Sir Bedevere's largest scales !!



6/1/2008 9:33:06 AM

Beeblebrox

But if the spirit had prompted him to do this, then he must submit to Gods' will.

I don't think his superior officers will see it quite that way.

...cause a domino effect as a result of those coins.

Is that the effect where the locals keep repeating "These a**hole Americans really are on another Crusade.!" That'll definitely make us more popular.


6/1/2008 10:14:23 AM

BlackMageJ

Who knows which one of those muslims might convert

I do! None of them will.

6/1/2008 10:25:29 AM

Brest

The sad fact is that these idiots don't realize that the war greatly contributed to the sharp decline of the historic Christian community in Iraq.

6/1/2008 10:53:10 AM

Mister Spak

Hear that knocking on your door? Thats a mujahideen handing out muslim coins.

Who knows which one of you infidels might revert and cause a domino effect as a result of those coins.

6/1/2008 11:49:11 AM

Princess Rot

How would you know if it was the spirit and not just the voices in his head?

6/1/2008 11:57:38 AM

szena

With attitudes like these I'm beginning to think that fundies should be kept out of the military. They don't take their oaths seriously and they think they can pick and choose which orders to follow.

6/1/2008 12:15:40 PM

Illuminatalie

"But if the spirit had prompted him to do this, then he must submit to Gods' will"
It's hard not to feel uneasy when I think of people thinking like this, who have guns. How do they know the difference between "Gods' will" and "their current whims"? Because of how they "feel" about it?

6/1/2008 12:20:23 PM

John

The spirit didn't prompt him to do it. His typical fundie holier-than-thou, "my religion's better than yours" attitude did. I don't know which one of those Muslims might convert - probably none in a land where people are willing to be suicide bombers for their faith - but we know most of them will be offended and cause a domino effect of blowing up a bunch of Marines as a result of those coins. The American people didn't elect some Marine to interfere with our foreign policy.

6/1/2008 1:26:26 PM

watchdog

"Who knows which one of those muslims might convert and cause a domino effect as a result of those coins."



You mean like the domino effect of Democracy spreading across the middle east? Sorry neither, the domino effect was disproven with Vietnam.

6/1/2008 1:47:38 PM

ID82

You can't convert a muslim to christianity. They believe they are a step higher then christians so converting to christianity would be going backwards for them.

6/1/2008 3:24:06 PM

moose

Doing what the voices in your head tell you too wasn't a valid defense for Andrea Yates; like hell is it going to be a valid defense here.

6/1/2008 3:49:08 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Has anyone in the history of the universe ever been persuaded to change their religion by a tract or a coin or any of those other tacky fundy gimmicks?

6/1/2008 4:00:13 PM

Lefty Link

I think god just told me to kill you. Gotta do what he says, right?

6/1/2008 4:45:23 PM

Isi

"cause a domino effect as a result of those coins"

I can't read the rest of it, but that right there made me snicker for some reason.

6/1/2008 5:40:08 PM
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