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[An update on the Colorado legislation SB-200 allowing transgendered people to use the restroom of their choice. It was signed into law.]

"Who would have believed that the Colorado state Legislature and its governor would have made it fully legal for men to enter and use women’s restrooms and locker-room facilities without notice or explanation?

Henceforth, every woman and little girl will have to fear that a predator, bisexual, cross-dresser or even a homosexual or heterosexual male might walk in and relieve himself in their presence."

[snip]

"This is your government in action. It represents a payback to Tim Gill and two other billionaires who have essentially ‘bought’ the state Legislature with enormous campaign contributions. Coloradans deserve better!"

James Dobson, Citizenlink.org (Focus on the Family) 54 Comments [6/1/2008 7:45:16 PM]
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Mike

FAIL. You didn't read the article did you?

6/1/2008 7:54:28 PM

Moon Wolfhowl

"Henceforth, every woman and little girl will have to fear that a predator, bisexual, cross-dresser or even a homosexual or heterosexual male might walk in and relieve himself in their presence."

Damn those Yautja!

6/1/2008 7:56:11 PM

LordJiro

Shut up, Dobson. Just...shut up.

6/1/2008 8:04:41 PM

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fully legal for men to enter and use women’s restrooms and locker-room facilities without notice or explanation?

1. Without note or explanation? The transgendered people I've spoken to explain themselves when "caught" in the "wrong" restroom.
2. Doesn't it matter to you when girls enter guys' restrooms? How very unsexist of you.

Henceforth, every woman and little girl will have to fear that a predator, bisexual, cross-dresser or even a homosexual or heterosexual male might walk in and relieve himself in their presence.

Right. Whereas before this law was signed into effect, no predator ever entered the wrong restroom, because, after all, he or she wasn't allowed to. I can just picture what goes on in the pedophile's mind... "Hmmm, I soooo wanna go rape that chick who just walked into that restroom, but I'm not allowed in there. Aaaaawwww...".

Sigh.

"This is your government in action.

Oh yes. Score one for rational thought.

6/1/2008 8:05:50 PM

Jae

"Henceforth, every woman and little girl will have to fear that a predator, bisexual, cross-dresser or even a homosexual or heterosexual male might walk in and relieve himself in their presence"

I'd very much hope they'd do it in the stall, not right out in front of everyone. Fundie's have sick minds...

6/1/2008 8:08:34 PM

Zankou

I'm sorry, but, for the most part, I agree.


This is disturbing, and wrong.

6/1/2008 8:09:07 PM

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honestly, I don't particularly like this either. I don't really have a problem with bathrooms, but in locker rooms a lot of people do walk around naked and having someone who is technically the opposite sex in the room is going to make things awkward. if they are actually transsexual that's another matter, but the whole point of having segregating changing facilities is so that people can change without people of the opposite sex observing them.

6/1/2008 8:09:13 PM

aaa

*Groan*

6/1/2008 8:15:23 PM

peabody

I don't really understand what the big deal about having separate bathrooms is, in the first place. We all eliminate waste, let's get over it.

6/1/2008 8:17:57 PM

Kzickas

"or even a homosexual"

Why exactly should a girl or a woman fear a male homosexual sexual predator?

6/1/2008 8:18:03 PM

Adrian

I don't completely disagree on this one with ol' ass clown Dobson.

I'm not particularly freaked out about this, however I'm not sure it was really the right decision. I don't like the idea of a gay man using a womens' bathroom or a lesbian woman using the mens' room. I just wouldn't feel at ease changing in front of the opposite sex at the gym...

On the other hand, I think a transsexual should be permitted to use whichever restroom he or she chooses.

6/1/2008 8:24:30 PM

LL

Yeah, it's men's bathrooms where you pee out in front of everyone. And while i can't speak for all the transfolk amongst us, i'd imagine most of us just want to quietly do our business without calling undue attention to ourselves.

Plus, hey Dobson. There were ALREADY trannies using your precious gender-segregated bathrooms.

6/1/2008 8:25:07 PM

Charlie

Sexist fundie to both genders. Transsexual females could also use the men's bathroom and why assume males are only 'predators' in that sense? I've met many females that are equally scary.

To the other commenters that think it's odd: Look at it from the perspective of the people the bill is directed to. If there's already fundies against them, you're not exactly helping to overcome their problems of understanding. Hell, we have co-ed bathrooms.


6/1/2008 8:26:32 PM

Antichrist

And what about fathers who take their little girls into the mens washroom, or mothers who take their little boys into the womens washroom? Is this not better parenting than to send the poor child into the 'right' public washroom alone?

I have no problem with going into the 'wrong' bathroom. I also have no problem with transgendered people coming into the washroom. I'm assuming this law is just a form of clarification for police if some uptight fundie throws a fit about someone they don't like being in a washroom.

6/1/2008 8:31:04 PM

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Can someone direct me to an unbiased review of SB200? All I find when I google are fundie propaganda sites.

Oh, and the locker room post is not me;). The post above that one is, though.

Oh, and Antichrist: When I went to HS in Houston, there'd be janitors walking into the opposite gender's restrooms to clean there. No one had a problem with them.

Something else I've been wondering: When people have buildings with two restrooms, each with one toilet... why do they declare one to be for men and one for women? Why should I care if the person who was in there before me was a man or a woman?

6/1/2008 8:43:22 PM

tmr

Why aren't you worried about the men and little boys and the mens room? Transgender goes both ways.

I can't say I'm excited at the idea of shared gender bathrooms, but for reasons of comfort, not ignorance.

6/1/2008 8:43:39 PM

Justin

James, do you know what a bisexual is? Why on earth would a bisexual, homosexual, or heterosexual want to go into the opposite sex's bathroom? And why do you talk women down as so weak James? James, knight in shining armor of the poor weak women.

6/1/2008 9:19:37 PM

Isi

So, does that go the same way for men? Yo, guys, would you mind if I waltzed into your bathroom to relieve myself in your (shielded from view) presence?

6/1/2008 9:26:36 PM

Kiro

"Henceforth, every woman and little girl will have to fear that a predator, bisexual, cross-dresser or even a homosexual or heterosexual male might walk in and relieve himself in their presence."

What exactly is wrong with homosexual males using our bathroom? It's not as if they're going to be having any improper thoughts about us. Heck, the fundies should be all FOR that, as it might encourage them to see more women and thus reconsider their sexual preferences. Right?

And... "in their presence"? All but the worst public toilets tend to have doors.

6/1/2008 9:39:57 PM

peabody

Isi: it wouldn't bother me, but it might make Dobson's head explode.

Really, though, anyone who frequents bars should be used to this sort of thing. Hell, I've been in the (men's) bathroom while a girl was peeing in the sink. I really just don't see what the big deal is.

6/1/2008 9:45:22 PM

chaosmage

While I'm not sure if this was a great idea or not, it doesn't change the fact that these guys are over-reacting.

6/1/2008 9:54:07 PM

Jeff Weskamp

I am ashamed to be living in the same state as James Dobson.

6/1/2008 9:57:12 PM

Bryan65

James Douche is mad that the government is no longer controlled by fundiedicks like him.

6/1/2008 9:57:25 PM

Old Viking

I, too, would like to read pertinent sections of the law itself before commenting. I must say, though, that I've been using public restrooms for about 70 years now, without giving it a whole lot of thought. Imagine this becoming an issue. Worry, worry.

6/1/2008 10:09:13 PM

Princess Rot

When I was in California last year, cleaners of the opposite sex would walk into the "wrong" bathroom. Nobody had a problem with it. Trans people would too, though I don't think its official law there, I saw enough in various places in Santa Monica.

Dobson fails because their aren't piss pots in the women's bathroom, there are stalls. So this "homosexual predator relieving himself in their presence" is bull. Besides, why do we still have gender-segregated bathrooms in this day and age? The unwritten "rules" concerning them are broken so much - by potty-training mothers and fathers, as somebody mentioned upthread, by lesbians, trans, gays, hets - before this law even came into effect that segregated public bathrooms seem pointless.

6/1/2008 10:09:13 PM
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