[In response to "Why pray?"]
1) God may base his decision on what is prayed. Note the story of Moses and the Golden Calf; God was going to destroy the Israelites until Moses begged God to spare them.
2) Prayer doesn't change God; he's immovable. Prayer changes you.
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1. If God knows the hearts of all men, prayer is pointless.
If what you say is true, then God cannot be considered a perfect being as he can be influenced by the deeds of imperfect beings. If he were perfect, he would remain unchanging regardless of the prayers of the imperfect. Logically it does not make sense.
"1) God may base his decision on what is prayed. Note the story of Moses and the Golden Calf; God was going to destroy the Israelites until Moses begged God to spare them.
2) Prayer doesn't change God; he's immovable. Prayer changes you."
MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
Ok...
God can be persuaded to do things.
But His Will is always done anyway, since he is in control, AND he is immovable.
I think I have an explanation.
God knows what is going to happen, but lies so that people will pray to Him to 'change' things, which He doesn't do because He intended them to pray all along.
So there is no free will, prayer is unnecessary and futile, and... I'm still right.
"Why not say "Our Lord, the Holy Ceiling Cat" for all the good its going to do."
Ceiling Cat has much love for this approach. She also has teh cheezburger.
1. So prayers are basically a divine suggestion box? And how does an omniscient being change it's mind?
2. Doesn't God being immovable contradict number 1?
David D.G. wrote:
*FUNDIE INTELLIGENCE OVERLOAD!*
No, you have it wrong. God is swayed by- prayed by- swayed by prey-
God is not prayed by swayer, he isn't swayed by prayer.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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