[Talking about how to turn a paintball game / birthday party into a force-Jesus-down-your-throat occasion]
I like the paintballs leave a mark and so does sin, I bet we can work that in with the "missing your target" idea.
This started out as a birthday party for our sons, but it keeps growing. We have a friend that wants to bring someone who is not saved, just so the unsaved friend could be around some Christian teens. That's when I offered to have a Gospel presentation at the lunch break, because I know not all the kids that will be there have heard the Gospel.
My oldest son overheard us planning, rolled his eyes and said, "Do you have to turn everything into an outreach? We can't do anything without you sharing the Gospel." Despite him rolling his eyes, I took that as a compliment!
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Good way to ruin your son's party. You know, despite what you may think, you do NOT have the right to force your particular religious beliefs on everyone around you. You act as though everyone who does not follow your particular religious theories is "lost", when they may well have their own religious beliefs with which they are very comfortable. You should respect your son's feelings on this.
"I like the paintballs leave a mark and so does sin, I bet we can work that in with the "missing your target" idea."
That is so clever! What you should do is say:
"The paintballs represent sin. The mask shield you from the 'sin', so the masks are Jesus. Anybody who hasn't accepted Jesus doesn't get a protective mask. Ok, let's paintball!"
You took it as a compliment?
Someone rolling their eyes?
Words can't say it. *facepalm*
That's the (well, one of) the problem (s) with the Jesus nuts: "I know not all the kids that will be there have heard the Gospel."
WE'VE HEARD IT. WE'VE FREAKIN' HEARD IT. WE'VE ALL HEARD IT HUNDREDS OF TIMES; IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO IN A COUNTRY WITH A CHURCH ON EVERY CORNER. IF WE WERE INTERESTED, WE'D LET YOU KNOW.
You do not know the definition of compliments, do you?
I feel terribly sorry for your sons. They're gonna' walk away from you so fast you'll see tracks.
Praise god! More kids raised to run as far away from their upbringing as possible. So much for honoring thy father and thy mother.
Oh, I'd love to play some paintball with these people.
Sounds awesome, I really need to vent some this burning-stupid-induced anger.
WTF kind of birthday party has a "lunch break"?
You know, when I say something and someone replies with "You're a stupid fucking tard", I always take it as a compliment.
That's not a compliment, he honestly thinks you shouldn't make religion your entire life.
Sounds like a boring birthday party.
"We have a friend that wants to bring someone who is not saved, just so the unsaved friend could be around some Christian teens. That's when I offered to have a Gospel presentation at the lunch break, because I know not all the kids that will be there have heard the Gospel."
And that was the most painful ambush of the day.
Way to go there. Embarrass your son in front of his freinds...again. Why not let your son and his freinds have some fun. Oh wait, you're waiting for the rapture. Perhaps if he's lucky, you'll be gone by then.
"... because I know not all the kids that will be there have heard the Gospel." Here's a hint:
Not being Christian is NOT the same thing as "not having heard the Gospel."
They're non-Christian because they HAVE heard the Gospel, and recognized it for the pile of hoo-ha that it is.
Reminds me of a hundred years ago when I was working in a record store and a youth minister from a local Baptist church called, said they were having a skating party, and asked if we had any "religious rollerskating music". He hung up pissed when I told him we had a "music for holyrollers" album.
Besides the usual arrogance of shoving Jesus into everybody's faces, this shows a deep disrespect for the parents of these "unsaved" teens as well as the teens themselves. They should not be planning on ambushing kids with their evangelizing/proselytizing under the cover of a fun b-day party without full knowledge of and consent by the kids and their parents. That's beyond deceitful and they would have an earful, at least, if my kid were one of their prey.
Ah, man! I *hate* when I am invited to a cool party, and with paintball- that totally rocks- and it turns out to be a sales pitch, to buy gold, or timeshares, or amway... or to convert to a cult...
His friends are going to be so bummed. And when they leave early, and won't come next time, and even talk about it to other people... his mother will tell him it's 'proof' he's doing the right thing, and that persecution is 'supposed' to happen.
>"Do you have to turn everything into an outreach? We can't do anything without you sharing the Gospel."
I'll bet that's not how he phrased it, either.
Spider-2, Tack-5, A-5, 98C, or Sim-4. This Atheist paintballer can throw the paint back at ya!
If you want a theology debate I can dish it out there also.
Good to see the son getting fed up with Jesus. Maybe he will see religion for what it really is, if he doesn't already.
Some people here are conflating 'not saved' with 'not Christian', and that's just not true at all. Some may be non-Christian, sure, but more likely the kids just belong to a different sect of Christianity, one that the Rapture-Horny creeps don't acknowledge. Like pretty much any mainstream denomination.
Your son has a point. You keep going on and on about something, eventually people start to tune you out, roll their eyes at you, or just start avoiding you altogether. That gets you nowhere. There were 5 kids in my family, we grew up with the catholic faith being crammed down our throats, and now none of us practice it, and only my oldest sister practices any form of christianity at all, and you can already tell her kids are bored with it.
Just let kids be kids.
What a way of thinking! If he/she is not a Christian, it means it didn't hear the Gospel. It's like Gospel is magical candy only fool won't believe, when it's not. It's just a story, retold thousands of times. And boring as hell to boot!
You can sell shit once, twice and hundreds times. But one day people start seeing what it really is and stop buying it.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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