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[Talks about other gods that share the same jesus stats]

Horus would be wrong my friend, Horus was pieced back together so that other goddess could have sex with it. As for Mithra, people need to stop comparing Christianity to it, it is nothing like Christianity nothing at all.

Oh and Krishna never rose from the dead either. Any terms of Krishna being "crucified" or "risen from the dead" are all borrowed from Christian beliefs, as in they were written after Christianity.

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old comment by Horsefeathers

"Horus would be wrong my friend, Horus was pieced back together so that other goddess could have sex with it."

The whole "dying/resurrecting" bit is the point. You people often claim nobody ever thought of such a thing before you pal Jesus came around. Which, obviously, is bullshit. The Egyptians beat you to it by a few thousand years at least.

"As for Mithra, people need to stop comparing Christianity to it, it is nothing like Christianity nothing at all."

Except for the parts that are nearly carbon copies. Many of the epithets you use for Jesus ("the way, the Truth and the Light; the Light of the World, etc) were all claimed to have been said by Mithra himself or his followers used it to describe him. Mithra also had qualities of a savior/redeemer. The largest temple with a Mitrha connection, a temple in Iran (around 200 B.C.E.), is dedicated to "Anahita, the Immaculate Virgin Mother of the Lord Mithras." There are also stories, apparently dating to about 600 B.C.E. of him being "crucified."

"Oh and Krishna never rose from the dead either. Any terms of Krishna being "crucified" or "risen from the dead" are all borrowed from Christian beliefs, as in they were written after Christianity."

You realize that the Hindu religion is about twice as old as yours, possible even older, don't you? The Krishna "crucifixion" story seems to date to around 1200 B.C.E. Plenty of time for you Christians to both hear about it and steal the idea, much like you steal holidays and religious ceremonies from other cultures.

old comment by Cabraxas

Isis and Osiris predate Christianity by many centuries. "That other goddess" was Isis (who did the 'piecing'). The 'piecee' was Osiris, not Horus. Horus was the son conceived after the 'piecing and sex'. You know nothing about Egyptian religions.

Mithras predates Christianity by several centuries. Mithras was born of a virgin on 25th December, had 12 disciples, performed miracles and was described as "The Way, The Truth and The Light" (sound familiar). Mithraism had a eucharist or “Lord’s Supper,” at which Mithra said, “He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved.” You know nothing of Mithraism

Krishna predates Christianity by millennia. Krishna was born of a virgin (Devaki) on 25th December. His father was a carpenter. His birth was signaled by a star in the east and attended by angels and shepherds, at which time he was presented with spices. The heavenly hosts danced and sang at his birth. He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants. Krishna was anointed on the head with oil by a woman whom he healed. He is depicted as having his foot on the head of a serpent. He worked miracles and wonders, raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind. Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love, and he “lived poor and he loved the poor.” He castigated the clergy, charging them with “ambition and hypocrisy . . . Tradition says he fell victim to their vengeance.” Krishna’s “beloved disciple” was Arjuina or Ar-jouan (Jouhn). He was transfigured in front of his disciples. He gave his disciples the ability to work miracles. His path was “strewn with branches.” In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves. Krishna was killed around the age of 30, and the sun darkened at his death. He rose from the dead and ascended to heaven “in the sight of all men.” He was depicted on a cross with nail-holes in his feet, as well as having a heart emblem on his clothing. Krishna is the “lion of the tribe of Saki.” He was called the “Shepherd of God” and considered the “Redeemer,” “Firstborn,” “Sin-Bearer,” “Liberator,” “Universal Word.” He was deemed the “Son of God” and “our Lord and Savior,” who came to earth to die for man’s salvation. He was the second person of the Trinity. His disciples purportedly bestowed upon him the title “Jezeus,” or “Jeseus,” meaning “pure essence.” Krishna is to return to judge the dead, riding on a white horse, and to do battle with the “Prince of Evil,” who will desolate the earth.

You obviously know nothing of comparative religions.

Checkmate.

old comment by Monu

@Cabraxas((1st page)):

[[Krishna predates Christianity by millennia. Krishna was born of a virgin (Devaki) on 25th December. His father was a carpenter. His birth was signaled by a star in the east and attended by angels and shepherds, at which time he was presented with spices. The heavenly hosts danced and sang at his birth. He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants. Krishna was anointed on the head with oil by a woman whom he healed. He is depicted as having his foot on the head of a serpent. He worked miracles and wonders, raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind. Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love, and he “lived poor and he loved the poor.” He castigated the clergy, charging them with “ambition and hypocrisy . . . Tradition says he fell victim to their vengeance.” Krishna’s “beloved disciple” was Arjuina or Ar-jouan (Jouhn). He was transfigured in front of his disciples. He gave his disciples the ability to work miracles. His path was “strewn with branches.” In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves. Krishna was killed around the age of 30, and the sun darkened at his death. ]]

Neither of Krishna's parents((biological parents and those who raised him)) were carpanters nor did they belong to a shepherd community. He was born in a dungeon where his uncle, Kansh,((the tyrant you mentioned)) had confined his parents as it was prophecied that his death will come by the hand's of his sister's off-spring, when Krishna was born the entire body of guards at the dungeon lost consciousness and he was smuggled by his father to house of the head of a nearby self-governed village in secrecy where he was raised. Also he lived for close to a 100 years. Also tradition DOES NOT say he fell prey to the vengence of clergy. You are right about the rest though.

old comment by Canadiest

And not only everything i've read but also,,,
Christians don't write history, they adapt it.

Isn't Mithraism the religion of those who recieved the letters of Paul, who origionated the practice of Christianity in Rome? Whos people so readily adopted the new religion as it so resembled the traditional one? Who became Lion food because they were worshiping a God the state hadn't approved?

I think I think so, evidence backs it.

Oh, and I Believe you should be respectful of Horus, it's Horus the Krist. Or as Egyptian kids said back then, Horus Fuckin' Krist, the annoited one. Heard of him biiaatch?

The revered and real people that resemble your Christ are 30 fold at least,and most preceed him by a thousand years.

Dawkins has said " the quickest way to be an Atheist is to read the Bible" This is true, and agreed upon by the Atheist consenses. But there's a different route.

I started studying the Biblical roots after getting into Greek and Nordic mythology (via Marvel comics first, then finding these legends chronicles in mythology books) I started looking into Christianties roots about 25 years ago and found comfirmation in libraries with todays internet. I'm talking about respected historians who studied these subject for years and provide multiple (way beyond any Biblical (as in only source) evidence.

It's a patchwork religion. Can't be nailed to one source and is reflected by many earlier myth. Jesus is the worst, you put him at two thousand years ago but documents and holy tombs of the time and before don't mention him or his life, but many preceed him in life events, miracles,ultimate end and rebirth (3 days yet)

Like I said, I didn't read the whole Bible but I undertook thirty years of study (cause I like Gods, especially pantheons of Gods as a hobby)and found the Bible not only unbelievable (as the others) but illogical, ignoble and insane. I get a jealous family or race of gods. But one? That's stupid at the gate.

old comment by Canadiest

Yeah, Methinks the "As for Mithra, people need to stop comparing Christianity to it, it is nothing like Christianity nothing at all." is a La La La, I can't hear you, I'm not listening moment.

No argument just straight-out dismissal and a plea to stop mentioning Mithras. Mithra, above them all is probably the one the churchs really want to be ignored as it's not only similar but was practiced by the first people who became Christians. Meet the new God, same as the old God.

I'm betting if you rounded up those who left seminary school and abadoned their faith and priesthood most of them would site the documented history and rituals of Mithraism as their first clue.

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