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I know that there is a God, and he CREATED the world! Scientists now are able to disprove Darwin's theory, though they wish they couldn't. But, yes there is a God! Example : did the house you live in all of a sudden "pop" up? No, someone had to MAKE it. Just like we couldn't all of a sudden "popped" into the world... God had to make/ create us.

24monks, Yahoo Answers 48 Comments [6/11/2008 9:28:41 PM]
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Havok77

So who created God?

Selective reasoning. I love it.

6/11/2008 9:30:44 PM



Yeah, but my house was made by a human.

The universe is so fucked up and disorganized it ...

Hmm...

You may have a point.

6/11/2008 9:34:50 PM

aaa

Unlikely to happen. NEXT.

6/11/2008 9:39:20 PM

El Guapo

Darwin's theory:
1. Organisms are capable of reproducing exponentially, but...
2.Populations tend to remain at equilibria.
3.Therefore not all organisms are successful in reproducing. In other words, some are more successful than others.
4. Variation exists in populations.
5. Some of this variation is heritable.

Variants that are heritable and increase an organism's ability to reproduce will grow more prevalent in populations over time.


Which part of this has been disproven?

6/11/2008 9:42:19 PM

Illuminatalie

24 monks without the intelligence of one unbrainwashed person.

6/11/2008 9:42:41 PM

Mike

You don't understand it whatsoever, do you?

6/11/2008 9:44:05 PM

JonathanE

Name one geneticist or biologist who has "disproven" the TOE.
Lying for Jeebus.

6/11/2008 9:45:25 PM

GigaGuess

Is your house capable of procreation? Because mine sure isn't. And if your god made man...and is so dead set against sex...why did he stop at 2...?

6/11/2008 9:47:12 PM

sofia the antichrist

Hint: Analogies make for terrible arguments. They're great to illustrate a point, but if your only defense for you side of the debate consists of analogies, you're probably wrong.

6/11/2008 9:48:03 PM

Julia

I had to post this, the image of the house going "SPROING!" just made me crack up.

6/11/2008 9:49:20 PM

Happymealungen

What do you know about that, cave dweller?

6/11/2008 9:50:54 PM

Marsten

Creationists never seem to understand WHY this is such a bad choice of argument. Houses are built by a sentient lifeform, which in turn are born from their parents... All this does is force us to ask where this 'god' of theirs came from, who created it, and why it doesn't just make houses 'pop' up into the world.

6/11/2008 9:51:17 PM

Katz

I popped into the world after about twelve hours of soul and vagina-numbing labour.

6/11/2008 9:53:18 PM

Allegory for Jesus

Scientists can disprove Darwin's theory? You must have different definitions of the words "scientist" and "disprove" than normal humans.

And the fundie tendency to compare natural occurences to human construction in order to prove that the natural must have been constructed is growing very old, very fast, and it has been for decades...

6/11/2008 10:01:18 PM

jellobiafra79

So, God had to all of a sudden "pop" us into the world instead.

i c wut u did thar.

6/11/2008 10:04:32 PM

Papabear

The ToE doesn't say that anything "popped" into the world. Do some research before popping off again.

6/11/2008 10:09:38 PM

anevilmeme

Lying your ass off for Jeeeezus! A popular fundie pastime since 33 CE.

6/11/2008 10:28:13 PM

Max

i think he is refering to this. Notice how he doesn't seem to interview any actual experts.
http://www.wayofthemaster.com/watch/evolution_video_high.html
Also, he doesn't have his facts right.
But he does try quite hard, bless him.
No wait, he interviews stephen gould.
Or he pretends to.
He quotes him.
Out of context.
...
Huh.
And then he plays with a chimp.
And now the analogies. He compares chimps and men with planes.
And now he makes things up.
It just goes on like this.
and on. He's feeding it salad.
irrelevant + out-of-context facts and quotes...
From Charles Darwin, a victorian. We don't still believe in eugenics, anymore, do we? Neither do we believe that white men are more evolved then women, or black (coloured? I dunno...) people.
...
...
who said that?
again with the pretending passers-by are experts.
he stops an (almost) expert in the middle of the point which would have rendered his whole argument moot... to quote the bible.
he admits that he knows little. well done.
... oh joy. Advertising. again, very little research done.
The church has a purpose?
Another Analogy... One which doesn't make sense.
Leave the idiot to crash and burn.
Actually, no. Keep arguing.
Oh yes, the idea that if you die not believing in god will convert me MUCH QUICKER than telling me about god. DON'T USE ANALOGIES.
... Teenagers don't make good interviewees. I know.
Yes, but DID YOU CONVERT HIM?
More advertising...
And nothing has been proved.

6/11/2008 10:37:19 PM

arcturus

"scientists"....

which ones?

6/11/2008 10:47:03 PM

kingoftheheavies

Teh stoopid hert mee bwain.

6/11/2008 10:54:56 PM

Horsefeathers

"I know that there is a God, and he CREATED the world!"

*sigh*

You know no such thing. You may believe it. You may wish it were so but you do not know it.

Why do I feel like I'm repeating myself all the time?

"Scientists now are able to disprove Darwin's theory, though they wish they couldn't."

Well, it's always been a possibility. Science insists on that quality. However, in 150 or so years of experimentation nothing has ever been found that falsifies the theory. Findings may falsify elements of the theory but the theory in it's entirety only grows stronger for it.

"But, yes there is a God!"

Evidence?

"Example : did the house you live in all of a sudden "pop" up? No, someone had to MAKE it."

No shit. What's your next astounding feat of mental acuity going to be?

Evolution doesn't state anything like what your strawman is attempting to make a point of.

"Just like we couldn't all of a sudden "popped" into the world..."

If you literally mean "all of a sudden" then you're poorly misinformed of what evolution states.

However, if by "all of a sudden" you mean waiting around 3.4 billion years after the planet formed before life even came about to begin with and then waiting until a mere 3 million years ago (or, possibly 6-7 million years ago if the Toumaï skull pans out) before hominids evolved then, yes, we did just appear "all of a sudden."

6/11/2008 11:03:29 PM

tmr

Again, a fundie comparing an inanimate, non living object created BY man, FOR man, to the creation of life.

I guess we see how much value they put on human life. If my house and my soul are in the same league, it explains a lot of my disinterest in any kind of creator.

Get a clue, fundies. Your arguments are usually more out of whack than the topic you're attempting to credit/discredit.

6/11/2008 11:27:47 PM

Some Guy

And yet real science news involves stories like this:

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab.html

6/11/2008 11:41:07 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

"Scientists now are able to disprove Darwin's theory, though they wish they couldn't."

[citation needed]

6/11/2008 11:59:52 PM

Grigadil

god didn't make/create anybody here. We were all born from our mothers, which has been the way things have been for every single generation since the beginning of the branch of placental mammals.

Depending on the individual birthing process, I'd think that some of us may have "popped" into the world. I've heard the expression, at least.

6/12/2008 12:07:38 AM
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