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[On why Evolution has been disproved, and how rocks are born]

Yes, Evolution has been disproved, but those who believe in the religion of Evolution are unwilling to admit it.

NASA uncovered lots of raw data showing that the moon is only about 10,000 years old, in the late 60's and early 70's and the Evolutionist refuse to admit it.

Many 25 year old Rocks from Mount Saint Helens which blew its lid in 1980 have been tested by "experts" who did not know where the rocks came from and those rocks were consistanly dated as being millions of years old.

And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes.

Proving that there has not been nearly enough time if evolution was to have occured on a random basis.

Leap Seconds as well as the fact that the Moon is moving slowly away from the earth is even more proof.

Pastor Art, Yahoo Answers 35 Comments [6/13/2008 7:43:25 AM]
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agentCDE

[citation fucking needed, bitch]

6/13/2008 7:52:50 AM

MilkyWay

And now, in the best traditions of the Christian church, Pastor Art is here to present his new performance:

"Lying For Jesus!"


6/13/2008 8:00:29 AM

DevNull

"NASA uncovered lots of raw data showing that the moon is only about 10,000 years old, in the late 60's and early 70's and the Evolutionist refuse to admit it." -- You would think there would be peer reveiw literature about that, cite please.

"Many 25 year old Rocks from Mount Saint Helens which blew its lid in 1980 have been tested by "experts" who did not know where the rocks came from and those rocks were consistanly dated as being millions of years old." -- Posibly due to the fact that the rocks 'formed' in the erruption were already solid and had formed part of the strato cone prior to the erruption and were mearly spread about by the detonation, but also consider the impact of xenoliths; when these are taken into account modern magma flows date perfectly.

"And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes."--
The good old argument ad improbability, unfortunatly we have a theory that explains the complexity of life: it's called evolution, I sujest yuo do some research on it (and use actual scientific sources NOT AiG).

"Leap Seconds as well as the fact that the Moon is moving slowly away from the earth is even more proof." -- Yes the moon is slowly moving away from the Earth, but you have proberbly seen this fact on some creationist video which claim that if the Earth was more than 6K years old then the moon would be too far away? If you saw that in the same creationist video as I did then you should be aware that in the first sum they do they manage to make an error of several million (similar to claiming that a 4.7 billion year old rock is only 6 thousand). Also, unfortunatly for you the data regarding the rate of lunar retreat meshes very well with the current 'impactor' theory of formation so ppfft.

Thunderf00t's videos are very good for stuff like this.

6/13/2008 8:23:49 AM

Palifox

Whether there are 10,000 years old rocks from the Moon is beside the point. Australian rocks dated at 3000 plus million years contain zircons that are over 4,000 million years old, The oldest rock on earth is a meteorite that fell not so long ago in Mexico, it has been dated even older that the zircons, though not by much. Fail

http://www.geology.wisc.edu/%7Evalley/zircons/Wilde2001Nature.pdf

The Mt. Saint Helens rocks were dacites and were formed in the eruption. They were taken by a geologist with close links to the Discovery Institute. They were dated using the potassium-argon method. In 1969 one of the originators of this method warned that it would not give good results on young rocks because there would be too little argon formed. That was long before the eruption.

The laboratory where the rocks were tested warned on it's website before the rocks were sent there that they could not date rocks with low argon content (or something like that, I forget the details). The result could have been predicted, an inaccurate date. This exercise was a "put-up" job.
Faked See talkorigins

There are 4^3 possible DNA codes. That is 64. Only 20 of them are used as the DNA code is degenerate, many codons code for the same amino acid. See first year / high school biology. Fail

The recession of the Moon is almost certainly not linear. It was closer to the Earth once.

Calculations based on the slowing of the rotation of the Earth show the day would have been a few seconds shorter 5000 years ago and a few hours shorter in the very distant past. See wikipedia or any good site on the subject of the Earth as a planet.

Fail and fraud



6/13/2008 9:23:29 AM

Cabal

10000 > 6000

APOSTATE

6/13/2008 10:27:29 AM

anevilmeme

What does the age of the moon, Mt Saint Helens, Leap Seconds or the recession of the moon have to do with evolutionary biology?

6/13/2008 10:45:33 AM

Alcari

"And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes."

right, it's just that 5*10^75 of them are lethal combinations that would never see the light of day. Which is how evolution works, moron.

6/13/2008 10:47:57 AM

tmr

I can't even read this. I am so burnt out on fundie evolution ignorance and argument. I've yet to read something that actually makes sense. I've yet to see a fundie post anything that comes from educated knowledge or any kind of understanding.

It's like a plague; the more I read of these ignorant fools, the more they show up.

6/13/2008 11:36:12 AM

aaa

[Cite, you lazy fuck]

6/13/2008 11:58:00 AM

Cosmic Muffin

I knew it was a bad thing when the pulled the plug on the Weekly World News.

All the nuts who used to follow the adventures of Batboy now have nothing do do but opine about things they know nothing about.

6/13/2008 12:15:50 PM

JonnyTruant

Yes, Evolution has been disproved, but those who believe in the religion of Evolution are unwilling to admit it.

**I can't wait to hear this...

NASA uncovered lots of raw data showing that the moon is only about 10,000 years old, in the late 60's and early 70's and the Evolutionist refuse to admit it.

***Uh... no it didn't. It did, however determine from rock samples that the moon is approximately 4.4 billion years old according to the Wikipedia entry.

Many 25 year old Rocks from Mount Saint Helens which blew its lid in 1980 have been tested by "experts" who did not know where the rocks came from and those rocks were consistanly dated as being millions of years old.

*** Most active volcanos will have similar results. Volcanic rock, when first formed will date to be very recent, but often has inclusions of older rock which broke off during the eruption within it, which will read as much older. Scientists know about these and they are well explained.

And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes.

*** Considering our lifetimes, if it were completely up to pure random chance, the probability of us evolving exactly as we are is very slim. Fortunately, that's not how evolution works. While single sex lifeforms will show little genetic variation except for mutations, sexual reproduction has the added advantage of variation through shared genetic information which allows populations to adapt more efficiently to changing environmental conditions. Evolution is not random.

Proving that there has not been nearly enough time if evolution was to have occured on a random basis.

*** Hello! Not random!

Leap Seconds as well as the fact that the Moon is moving slowly away from the earth is even more proof.

*** Oooh! learn something you troglodyte. The Moon is increasing in speed because of the Earth's oceans pull on it as the Earth rotates faster than the Moon orbits. Think Newton here. As the Moon speeds up, it will have more energy causing it to move away from the Earth. Leap seconds are just our way of making sure the man made concept of time stays with nature's time.

Go read something, will ya?

6/13/2008 1:44:33 PM

Mr Smith

Yes, Evolution has been disproved, but those who believe in the religion of Evolution are unwilling to admit it.

Yeah, neither are those pesky zealots that believe in the religion of gravity. And don't get me started on those Quantum Chromodynamics religious nuts. As if quarks could have colours!

And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes.

No there aren't. The amino acids that make up DNA have to follow the laws of chemistry same as every other compound.

6/13/2008 1:50:28 PM

Firthy2002

[citation badly needed]

6/13/2008 2:48:53 PM

John

NASA uncovered lots of raw data showing that the moon is only about 10,000 years old, in the late 60's and early 70's and the Evolutionist refuse to admit it.

Even AiG refuses to admit it. The old "moon dust" argument is long dead. Moon-dust argument no longer useful

Many 25 year old Rocks from Mount Saint Helens which blew its lid in 1980 have been tested by "experts" who did not know where the rocks came from and those rocks were consistanly dated as being millions of years old.

They sent it to a lab whose equipment wasn't designed to measure samples less than about 2 million years old. It was like trying to weigh a feather on a truck scale. Besides which, the explosion didn't create the rocks, it just moved them.

6/13/2008 3:39:27 PM



Lying is a sin. You know you're going to hell right?

6/13/2008 3:42:34 PM



Evolution - It's not random.

6/13/2008 3:54:46 PM

Osiris

And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes.
How?!? Evolution predicted and relies on the human genome having great diversity. In fact the first observation in Darwin's book is that all species have variation.

6/13/2008 5:03:32 PM

Alfred

Oh, so at least you're willing to admit that we actually WENT to the moon. Well, that's better than some fundies...

6/13/2008 5:09:41 PM



"Yes, evolution has been disproved"??? If you truly are a pastor, you'd better get down on your knees and pray for forgiveness for violating commandment #9. Lying for your beliefs is still LYING>

6/13/2008 9:17:35 PM

Horsefeathers

"Yes, Evolution has been disproved, but those who believe in the religion of Evolution are unwilling to admit it."

Really now? Odd then that nobody bothered to mention that it's been disproved.

"NASA uncovered lots of raw data showing that the moon is only about 10,000 years old, in the late 60's and early 70's and the Evolutionist refuse to admit it."

PRATT, I believe. I'd still be curious to see your citation for this one, just for laughs.

"Many 25 year old Rocks from Mount Saint Helens which blew its lid in 1980 have been tested by "experts" who did not know where the rocks came from and those rocks were consistanly dated as being millions of years old."

No shit, Sherlock. The individual "rock" may be 25 years old but the composite material is millions of years old--just like the fucking volcano, moron.

"And with the mapping of the human DNA completed that was the death blow since there are 10^87 possible DNA codes."

And? I'm not quite sure what the hell kind of point you think you're making, but you're not making the one you think you are.

"Proving that there has not been nearly enough time if evolution was to have occured on a random basis."

Say what now?

"Leap Seconds as well as the fact that the Moon is moving slowly away from the earth is even more proof."

If I recall the calculations the moon has moved a whole inch or so further away since it's formation. So yes, it is moving slowly away from the earth. Very slowly, indeed.

6/13/2008 9:23:45 PM

Old Viking

Well it wowed 'em in Peoria.

6/13/2008 10:08:38 PM

nfp

Stick with pastoring, Art--for which no education is required. Science is obviously not your bag.

6/13/2008 11:05:50 PM

anon

Brain-dead pastors like pastor Art also don't submit any citations or websites that prove his points; he just expects you to blindly accept it. Typical fucking funda-MENTAL-ist.

6/14/2008 12:00:30 AM

Nirjuana

First, [CITATION NEEDED BIATCH]

Second, what does the Moon have to do with biology?

6/14/2008 11:36:26 PM

Mick

Fig one: Evidence?
Fig two: We never claimed rocks evolved...

6/15/2008 10:30:54 PM
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