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Alchemy is real, I can asure you that. It's as real as science or chemestry ever were. It should also never be catorigized with wichcraft, as the two have absolutly nothing in common. There are no "magic words" in alchemy, there are no "mystic potions" in alchemy. Alchemy is also not evil, as some might think. Those rumors, I'm sorry to say, were created by the roman cathlic church in the early 16th century.

Jay Vee, Yahoo! Answers 18 Comments [6/13/2008 2:00:35 PM]
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Trippy.

6/13/2008 3:17:42 PM

Sawyer

Quick wiki search:
Late 17th century and done by relatively secular authorities (Rober Boyle)
And the Muslims even beat that, in the 9th Century by two guys named Avicenna and Al-Kindi.
I'm curious though, where did he get early 16th?

6/13/2008 4:53:55 PM

IanC

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth."

6/13/2008 10:02:38 PM

Edward

Yes it is real. Me and my brother tried using it to bring our mom back to life, but I lost an arm and a leg and my brother lost his whole body. Luckily I was able to replace them with automail and my brother's soul was put into a suit of armor.

We now search for the philosopher's stone.

6/13/2008 10:35:00 PM

Envy

I'm going to kill you my brother, Edward!

6/14/2008 2:03:07 AM

sgt snoodles

actually alchemy is the predecessor to modern chemistry. Now that we have chemistry alchemy is obsolete and nobody gives a flying fuck about it anymore.

6/14/2008 4:18:13 AM

Fanatic-Templar


6/14/2008 6:15:33 AM

Larty

Alchemy is not science because it's not self-correcting. Alchemists usually blamed failed experiments on their testing equipment rather than their hypotheses.

6/14/2008 8:51:17 AM

Quarkyhadron

Alchemy; which is the practice of turning lead into gold is impossible in chemistry. Unless you have a nuclear reactor in which case it is possible to destabilize lead nuclei and cause them to decay into gold.

6/14/2008 7:58:01 PM

Alcari

Ah, alchemy.
Knowing that A+B makes C, but not having a clue as to why.

6/14/2008 8:03:50 PM

Old Viking

Correct spelling is real, I can assure you. Give it a go some time.

6/15/2008 12:16:05 AM

Wrath

@Edward:

I'm gonna take your body, bitch! Also I was inside your mom. lol

6/15/2008 2:31:00 AM

tmr

Yeah, Dumbledore and Flamel were renowned in alchemy.

6/15/2008 9:11:28 PM



Oh. Well now that you have assured me, I believe it completely. Yep. That's all I needed, the assurance of some random person online.

6/16/2008 3:16:53 PM

Scar

I shall smite thee, Edward!

6/16/2008 10:09:45 PM

Microraptor

He needs his anime/manga privileges revoked, plz.

6/18/2008 12:40:05 PM

Antichrist

Alchemy was the beginning of Chemistry, but thats as far as that goes. You can't change Iron into Gold (Chemically anyway).

6/20/2008 1:07:48 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Alchemy was indeed the beginning of chemistry. The difference is that alchemy was mostly ignorant empiricism, whereas chemistry is based on rationalism. Alchemists typically didn't have a fucking clue how anything they did was working or any means of predicting results, they operated by guesswork - mixing any old shit together and remarking when it did something interesting, like changing colour, and blindly hoping the correct sequence of interesting but incomprehensible reactions, much like a magical incantation or a cargo-cult aeroplane summoning ritual, might actually produce something of value, whereas modern chemists make predictions based on an underlying model and only use empirical tests to validate that model.

In short, alchemy is cargo-cult chemistry. Oh, with a healthy dose of something remarkably similar to numerology, too - attributing various chemicals with relevance to particular supernatural entities, seasons, etc based on vague, superficial similarities, in the hope that one can be used to predict the behaviour of the other. Granted, there's a bit of a grey area as the alchemists gradually learned how to be proper chemists over the centuries, but you get the idea.

6/20/2008 4:56:27 PM
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