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Why is rape on the rise? The Bible talks about the lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh. And believe me, women, young or old, are asking for trouble by encouraging rapists to fulfill their lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh by baring their bodies to extremes.

Raymond Zini, Green Bay Press-Gazette People's Forum 25 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Eric

Because rape is about sex [sarcasm] When will people understand that rape is about power and controlling another human being. I also don't buy that rape is on the rise. As far as I know crime has been decreasing.

4/11/2007 2:06:33 AM

Darwin

Rape is on the rise? Statistics please...

4/11/2007 3:29:51 AM

Brian X

Is rape really on the rise? It seems as though it's being reported more, but I don't think there's really any way to tell the actual statistics. It seems reasonable to assume that it's declining along with the general trend of declining violent crime in most Westernized countries, but that a) is just speculation and b) may not have anything to do with crazy mixed-up USA anyway.

4/11/2007 3:45:13 AM

Ella

Weel rape was still around in the middle ages and stuff when women wore full length dresses and 700 petticoats

I dress in (gasp!) low cut tops and shortish skirts and shorts, and I havn't been raped, and I probably won't be, because I am not stupid enough to walk in a deserted area by myself.

1/16/2008 10:30:04 AM

Princess Rot

Burquas for Everyone Award?

3/18/2008 5:42:33 PM

Canadiest

Well, there were probably less rapes in the 50s but there were less people and were'nt reported as much. I doubt theres a higher quota of rape as totally fucked-up loser quota's probably not changed much either.

There is no correlation to how the girls dress , men are pigs, there I said it.

3/21/2008 12:50:27 AM

Feminazi

To both Ella and the fundie: Not everyone who gets raped is dressed slutty, and in most cases it's done by someone the victim usally knows and not by some stranger in a backalley.

3/21/2008 3:47:06 AM

T. McGee

Thank you, Feminazi.

7/22/2008 11:18:04 PM

nemesis

It's always the victim's fault with you assholes, isn't it?

7/22/2008 11:47:14 PM

Grigadil

I'm a nudist. I see women, young and old, completely naked. Men as well, of course. Like me, they all enjoy living in a natural state and feeling the sun and air on their skin.

When I started, it surprised me to note that the "Ewww" factor (that I anticipated as a reaction to seeing those bodies that were far from the Grecian ideal) did not even crop up, and those bodies that were attractive could be cleanly appreciated as such, without the drool.

My point, I guess, is to remark that Ray and his like are in need of some serious adjustment (de-mystification) of their perceptions of women, their bodies, and sexuality.

I remember a quote, unfortunately I can't attribute it but it might have been Mark Twain: "As a general thing, naked people tend to be more polite."



7/23/2008 1:35:03 AM

Elphaba

what Eric said.

Raymond, you pathetic moron, rape is also an act of violence. Encouraging rapists? In our town 2 sisters were raped but they were wearing house robes. Flannel. They were 82 and 83. I doubt you will but you need to do a little research. Women of advanced age are raped. I doubt they are parading around in baring their bodies. If a woman hurts/kills her rapist or would be rapist you'd be one of the first idiots to cry out for her head. After all, "she could have relaxed and enjoyed it, right?" Do you have a daughter? If this horrible crime happened to her would you say it was her fault?

7/23/2008 1:54:20 AM

Bad Influence

Way to blame the victim, you misogynist asswipe.

7/23/2008 2:30:14 AM



Then please explain how beaches are not hot spots for rape. Especially nudist beaches.

7/23/2008 4:49:50 PM

Ericm6

Wow, shes hot. I think I'm gonna rape her.

How often does this happen?

6/27/2009 10:28:01 PM

Natalie

When I was on a swimteam, I wore Speedos all the time. And man, I was always getting raped! Wait...no I wasn't. You're completely full of shit.

6/28/2009 10:07:08 AM



1) Rape is not on the rise.
2) Rape is widely under-reported, though less so over time.
3) Even official crime statistics - which require criminal charges - show that most rapes are committed by present or former lover, friend or family member. Only 1 in 4 is committed by strangers.

6/16/2011 6:54:46 PM

Tempus

Doesn't matter what s/he looks like. Doesn't matter how s/he is dressed.

No means no. If you can't control your urges, you aren't much of a human being.

6/16/2011 7:08:15 PM

Ebon

Rape isn't on the rise. Reporting of rape is up but the actual commission of the crime is falling slowly. Also, you are blaming the victim. I could explain the psychological processes that cause rape but you wouldn't be listening anyway.

9/12/2012 11:43:55 PM

Crimson Lizard

Methinks the jackass doth protest too much. How many rape victims would fall out of Ray's closet if I opened it, I wonder?

1/17/2013 11:17:48 AM

GigaGuess

No, see, rapes are REPORTED more, because women are starting to realize "You filthy harlot, if yuo hadn't have bared your shoulders and went into that dark alley without an army of manly men to protect you, this wouldn't have happened" is bullshit reasoning, and blaming the victim is less and less effective. If a man rapes a woman, the man is at fault. Period. I can control myself to know that no means no. They can too.

1/17/2013 11:22:25 AM

Anon-e-moose

"The Bible talks about the lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh"

Then the very fact we normal, decent, civilised, sane Atheist men who possess self control proves our more than infinite superiority to the so-called 'morals' of the Bible, doesn't it?!

That little matter, re. God (the 'Holy Spook') & the underage Mary. Two words: Statutory Rape.

Prove that we Atheists are more than infinitely superior to even your own Biblegod much, fundies...?!

1/17/2013 11:30:10 AM

xyz

Blaming the victims again, I see... Typical fundie.

1/17/2013 11:39:47 AM

Sasha

I'm assuming that Raymond is on his local police watch list.

1/17/2013 7:33:36 PM

Sasha

Double post! Aaargh!

1/17/2013 7:41:04 PM

HappyGazpacho

"And believe me, women, young or old, are asking for trouble"

No. Fuck you.

5/20/2014 11:08:30 AM
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