Same-sex marriage, which is also politically driven, has caused ripped apart the Anglican and other Christian churches.
Isn't marriage driven by, y'know, love?
Addictions such as gambling and pornography, which are also politically driven
Oh, come ON! Are you trying to get across the whole sex-as-power idea? If so, it could be a LOT better phrased.
6/18/2008 5:58:54 PM
And does Mr. Schlafly have a plan to stop two hundred and fifty thousand sentinels?
6/18/2008 6:03:20 PM
I wish there actually were government-subsidized attacks on chuches. Since I stand with my country, it would allow ME to deny YOU the rights to do as you please. Just as your ilk have done to my people for generations. Fuck off and die.
6/18/2008 6:04:56 PM
1. What possible liberal political statement involves church destruction?
2. Its simple. I don't come around your place and tell you not to eat hamburgers. You don't come round mine and tell me what I do to a bunch of cells. Abortion and Same sex marriage are not politically motivated. They are things that involve the equality of man and the improvement of society. We are not holding women under a gun to abort their children. And we are certainly not forcing men at gun point to be of "Teh Ghey".
3. I presume you are talking about evolution. A little piece of history. After the papal attempts and some countries attempts to ban the use of cross bows. Quite a few countries banned them... Those countries were destroyed by their neighbours who did have crossbows. Same thing with guns and japan. So will it be with evolution. Your biotech companies who do pump insane amounts of money into your economy will "go somewhere else". Your medical system will plummet down the rankings as you lose your best doctors. That is the price you will pay for not adopting a piece of technology that is shown to give us massive benefits.
Oh. Remember if Evolution goes, it takes out all the science its built on. So you will let far more murderers out of jail. Lest you forget, the science of forensics is heavily based on DNA to determine presence of individuals in areas (or not) thus losing the most powerful tool in our arsenal.
6/18/2008 6:12:21 PM
6/18/2008 6:21:14 PM
Abortion, which is mostly driven by politics, has devastated Christian families in many parts of the world, especially England and the northeastern United States.
True, because in those states its likely to be very hard to get one and thus more fundies are inflicted on the world.
6/18/2008 6:40:06 PM
I find it amusing that they interpret the general populace's indifference to their religion as "indirect attacks on Christianity". They need to take care of their own damn house before they worry about what the hell the rest of us are doing.
6/18/2008 7:00:31 PM
In Canada, we have legalized gambling, same-sex marriages, and legalized abortion. There's christian churches all over the friggin' place. (the street I live on has five of 'em alone)
6/18/2008 7:01:10 PM
How has abortion devastated Christian families? Is someone putting a gun to the woman's head and forcing her to get one? No. Is the existence of same-sex marriage forcing people to leave churches? Anything that doesn't agree with your religion is an "indirect attack" now. Take that pie chart and shove it up your ass.
6/18/2008 7:03:04 PM
"Liberal politics destroyed the thriving Christian churches in Massachusetts."
If it wasn't for them dang liberals we'd still be burning witches.
6/18/2008 7:13:47 PM
It must be therapeutic for those with paranoid delusions and persecution complexes to post on that site. I can't see any other reason why it exists. It's certainly not factual, informative or unbiased.
6/18/2008 7:20:27 PM
Snopester in Exile
What the hey are they talking about?
6/18/2008 7:25:34 PM
Whoa, the Christian Persecution Complex combined with the Conservative Conspiracy Theory. This is such an epic fail it's almost a win.
6/18/2008 7:26:41 PM
The excerpt, above, is the bulk of Mr. Schlafly's essay. All that's missing is another 6 fairly short sentences.
So the total is what, maybe 250 words?
Not much of an essay, if you ask me.
6/18/2008 7:30:41 PM
Allegory for Jesus
Where has Islam "overtaken" Christianity?
Abortion is only driven by politics by those who oppose it. Very few people aside from its opponents care about abortion itself, but only its availability as an option. Same for same-sex marriage. How are addictions politcally driven? How does school cirriculum undermine Christianity?
Persecution complex to the 4th power.
6/18/2008 7:30:42 PM
Abortion, which is mostly driven by politics, has devastated Christian families in many parts of the world
Riiight, because the christian family down the street is greatly bothered by my fictional wive's abortion.
6/18/2008 7:35:51 PM
I see a trend here. EVERYTHING poses an active threat against "Christianity", everything from Descartes to lolcats. There is an enemy behind every tree....
6/18/2008 7:46:39 PM
Not that any of that is true, but I'm OK with anything that has a devastating affect on christianity.
6/18/2008 7:55:08 PM
"Liberal politics destroyed the thriving Christian churches in Massachusetts."
How. How is a political ideology hurt a completely parallel concept? I hope the rest of this post explains this.
"In other parts of the world, politically driven Islam has overtaken Christianity and virtually abolished it."
Well actually most places where Islam is more popular than Christianity it has been so for centuries.
"Abortion, which is mostly driven by politics..."
No, it's driven by rights to choose what happens to your body, moving on.
"has devastated Christian families in many parts of the world, especially England and the northeastern United States."
No. The only way I can imagine this happening is a girls family objecting to abortion and the girl has one anyway. But in such situations it still remains the girls right to choose. Now no one is forcing you to have an abortion. That should be obvious from the positions name of "Pro-CHOICE". The idea that an abortion outside your family somehow hurts yours is parallel to a pebble dropped in the Mississippi will cause a ripple in Lake Superior.
"Same-sex marriage, which is also politically driven..."
"has caused ripped apart the Anglican and other Christian churches."
Ignoring your use of a verb in place of a noun which is most likely an innocent error, let's look at this. Marriage, as long as their is consent between the two adults, is a guaranteed right. So long as they don't intrude into your life you aren't be degrading by another's marriage.
"Addictions such as gambling and pornography, which are also politically driven..."
"have have devastating effects on Christian churches and families." Maybe so, but no more effect than they would on another family of an equal standard regardless of religion.
"In some cases, billions of taxpayer money is used by government to erode and destroy Christian values..."
No. I think Lunalelle said it best. "Atheists don't want to outlaw Christianity. They want to make sure that Christianity doesn't outlaw everything else." No church has been attacked by the government. Not even the epitome off religious offensive groups, the Westboro Baptist Church, has been affected.
"as in some of the curriculum taught in public schools."
The only things taught in schools that is legally sanctioned is that which has the most evidence for it. If the Church is not being taught there, it's for a reason. And if you dare to teach something that goes against all evidence you are the one attacking the curriculum.
"It is entirely up to Christian churches to identify, expose and combat these indirect attacks on Christianity."
Show me one.
"In Democratic states where the government-subsidized attacks on Christianity have been most severe..."
"Christian churches have already lost much in support by not responding to this challenge."
6/18/2008 7:55:52 PM
6/18/2008 8:43:30 PM
Paranoid a lot there Andy? Abortion, gambling, and porn politically driven? You are an idiot. Huge oil profits, war-profiteering, and scapegoating homosexuals and liberals, now those are politically driven.
6/18/2008 9:13:28 PM
In other words, Christians are so witless that they succumb with barely a whimper to devious liberal plotting.
6/18/2008 9:14:10 PM
Considering they're supposed to be emissaries of an omnipotent being, your churches seem remarkably weak and easily destroyed.
6/18/2008 9:19:52 PM
What the fuck are you-
Oh, Conservapedia, never mind.
6/18/2008 9:29:02 PM
Unbiased as ever...
You should really get used to the idea of government as an establishment for the support and governance of the people, not the proponent of sex, religion, or the destruction thereof.
6/18/2008 9:59:33 PM