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Hell is not evil; Hell is just. But that doesn't mean I delight in the thought of people going there. Hell is a function of God's justice.

Best,
-Nick

ReformedApologian, Youtube 30 Comments [6/20/2008 8:04:03 PM]
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#551343
vertexshader

Explain to me again how eternal torment is a justified punishment?

6/20/2008 8:06:21 PM
#551345
Admiral Crunch

Eternal torture for not believing in something in which there is no evidence it true is hardly just.

6/20/2008 8:06:55 PM
#551347
Mayhem

"Hell is not evil; Hell is just."

How about "Hell is just evil."

The again, so is your vindictive prick of a god.

6/20/2008 8:07:57 PM
#551355
Grigadil

Hell is a function of god's justice. god is a function of demagoguery. Demagoguery is the resort of lying backstabbing beggars.

6/20/2008 8:12:08 PM
#551356
Orangutan

Domestic Abuse isn't evil; Domestic Abuse is just. But that doesn't mean I delight in the thought of wives being slapped around. Domestic Abuse is a function of a husbands justice.

6/20/2008 8:12:18 PM
#551360
anonymous_troy

How is it just that everybody from serial rapists and mass murderers to godless heathens gets the same punishment?

6/20/2008 8:13:20 PM
#551398
Pyroclasm

Wow, that's some justice. Punishing finite sins with infinite torture.

6/20/2008 8:26:52 PM
#551400
Wet Walnuts

So, a serial killer who gets "born again" in prison goes to Heaven, while virtuous non-believers are eternally tortured? Explain to me how that is just.

6/20/2008 8:27:13 PM
#551411
Bluefinger

Heaven = Eternal existence kissing God's ass whilst being in a constant 'blissful' state (read, mindless)
Hell = Eternal Flaming with lots of sharp pointy things

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Holy shit, I'm having a hard time choosing between the two.

6/20/2008 8:31:52 PM
#551413
MaxW

If Hell is just, then nothing is unjust.

6/20/2008 8:32:49 PM
#551444
tracer

Explain to me why an all-loving God "had" to create Hell again?

6/20/2008 8:50:29 PM
#551450
Osiris

How is eternal torture for even a moment of sin just?

6/20/2008 8:52:09 PM
#551474
Xotan

Especially as there are only 144,000 thrones for the justified in the blood of the lamb in heaven - as the Bible says. Read Revelation again!

6/20/2008 9:01:43 PM
#551484


Gee, what a great way to sell that "loving heavenly father" there, Nick.

6/20/2008 9:08:30 PM
#551501
GigaGuess

So...explain to me anything...ANYTHING we can do on this planet that is so horrific that justifies being tortured until the end of time, without any chance to redeem yourself. Let alone how not believing in an entity that has never appeared in any provable fashion in any serious recorded history ranks in there at all.

6/20/2008 9:14:51 PM
#551531
Antichrist

Yeah a Buddhist monk who spends his life working to help orphans and bring peace to the world deserves hell because he didn't kiss the right ass.

That's justice all right.

6/20/2008 9:37:46 PM
#551536
LAchlan

So let me get this straight. God made hell for sinners to go to. But hell is run by Satan, who doesn't get on with God. So Satan tortures the bad people who go to hell and he's really doing that for God, who he doesn't get on with. Surely it would make more sense for Satan to maybe lay on a buffet for the sinners and bad people, get them on side for the battle of Armageddon. "Hi. Welcome to hell, I'm Satan, the manager here. We've laid on a buffet, please make yourself at home. I'd leave the salmon sandwiches if I were you, I asked the catering company not to do them cos it's so warm in here, but I guess they didn't listen. Everything else should be ok, the chicken pakora looks really nice, so you'll have to be quick if you want some of that. Enjoy your stay, and if there's anything you need, one of our demons will be only too happy to help."

6/20/2008 9:41:06 PM
#551560
Old Viking

Wouldn't it be hard to look forward to an eternity with people who think hell is just?

6/20/2008 9:57:04 PM
#551587
tracer

Xotan wrote:

"Especially as there are only 144,000 thrones for the justified in the blood of the lamb in heaven - as the Bible says. Read Revelation again!"


Yes, but those thrones aren't the ONLY places available for the heaven-bound. Remember, the 144,000 were all male virgins, too.

6/20/2008 10:20:19 PM
#551601
Laura

Cool, so you won't bitch when you find yourself and 98% of the rest of the fundies hanging out down there with the sinners? Good then.

6/20/2008 10:33:22 PM
#551633
Lunalelle

Eternal torment for mortal sins. How is this just?

6/20/2008 11:36:53 PM
#551647
Eden

Originally posted by LAchlan

So let me get this straight. God made hell for sinners to go to. But hell is run by Satan, who doesn't get on with God. So Satan tortures the bad people who go to hell and he's really doing that for God, who he doesn't get on with. Surely it would make more sense for Satan to maybe lay on a buffet for the sinners and bad people, get them on side for the battle of Armageddon. "Hi. Welcome to hell, I'm Satan, the manager here. We've laid on a buffet, please make yourself at home. I'd leave the salmon sandwiches if I were you, I asked the catering company not to do them cos it's so warm in here, but I guess they didn't listen. Everything else should be ok, the chicken pakora looks really nice, so you'll have to be quick if you want some of that. Enjoy your stay, and if there's anything you need, one of our demons will be only too happy to help."

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This reminds me of a joke that was similar:
Jon has died and finds himself before the gates of hell. Reluctantly he goes through and, to his surprise, stands at a beautiful beach landscape, with lots of beautiful people who are having a good time.
After a while Satans comes along to greet Jon:
"Hi Jon, welcome to hell, I hope you enjoy your visit in hell. Maybe you should take some time and familiarize yourself with the surroundings. But be back in the evening, as then we´re having a nice beach party with limbo dance"

So Jon does what Satan recommended and wanders along the beach. After a long walk, he comes to a desolate region with a cave out of which he can hear screams of pain and terror. Curious he enters the cave and sees flames and demons who are torturing human souls.
Startled he immediately returns to Satan and asks him about it.
Satan answers:
"Well, that´s a bit embarassing, maybe I should have told you beforehand about it. These souls in the cave are christians. They want it that way"

:D

6/20/2008 11:57:00 PM
#551659
Sheik yer Bouti

Oh.
I understand.

So it is GOD that is evil.

6/21/2008 12:13:51 AM
#551700
Allegory for Jesus

Hell is a function of God's justice, eh? That's a really poor justice system for an omnipotent god, now isn't it? I mean, an eye for an eye on the mortal plane is obviously a cruel enough of a rule. But, having your just God removing an infinite number of eyes for a single one taken...I don't think I need to tell you what is wrong with that...

6/21/2008 1:16:15 AM
#551843
aaa

Your justice system sucks.

6/21/2008 4:07:36 AM
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