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There are higher priorities in the universe than one's own life, don't you think?

Faith is better than medicine and far more effective. Science cannot help solve everything Faith can.

Make as many medical discoveries as you want, but why allow the world to suffer and keep from supplying those most in need from medicine? Science is getting almost hypocritical in the purpose by which it exists. Neither Faith nor religion created the atom bomb; science did, and yet, modern technology is seen as some sort of "savior" of mankind's problems. People are still suffering, and they suffer far more where most needed while in first-world countries, well, why would they even want to care? It's like scientific research and medicine is only for high-society; medicine only for the rich.

Consider that. If people cannot afford an appropriate way to access medicine, what else do they have to look to?

Also, blood transfusions are like turning human beings in self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monsters. Why extend life a 5, 10, 25, or even 50 years when higher priorities reap greater, everlasting benefits? Maybe medicine focuses on the short term benefits, not the long.

Science is getting at the worst in human beings' value of themselves and the world.

evantisin, Gametrailers 44 Comments [6/21/2008 8:11:44 PM]
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LOLWUT

Oh, I don't know? Maybe because deep down inside, we all know what's going to happen when we die; we become a rotting corpse and our consciousness dies, never to be revived again.

6/21/2008 8:15:55 PM

TheNerd

But neither science nor technology pushed the button to deploy the bomb, so maybe you should hate humanity, not science.

...oh, right, you do.

6/21/2008 8:16:22 PM

aaa

One word: Smallpox. And you type in a modern computer.

6/21/2008 8:17:31 PM

Alcari

Faith is better than medicine and far more effective. Science cannot help solve everything Faith can.

16-year-old Neil Beagley, form Gladstone Oregon might disagree with you on that.
Oh, wait, no he won't. BECAUSE HE'S DEAD! because of retards like you!

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20080618/Faith.Healing.Death/

6/21/2008 8:19:59 PM



http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20080618/Faith.Healing.Death/


Read this, and then tell me that faith is better than modern medicine.

6/21/2008 8:20:32 PM

Bowen

You do realise that the same research that led to nuclear weapons also led to nuclear medicines and radiation treatments for cancer patients, right? Of course, you don't. You'd have to clutter your mind with pesky facts.

6/21/2008 8:20:48 PM



curse you alcari!!!!

6/21/2008 8:21:10 PM

Alcari

It's like scientific research and medicine is only for high-society; medicine only for the rich.
No, that's just because of your moronic healthcare system.

blood transfusions are like turning human beings in self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monsters.
We will continue this talk when you're bleading to death.

6/21/2008 8:22:54 PM

sofia the antichrist - I am god!

There are higher priorities in the universe than one's own life, don't you think?

Congratulations, you've stumbled upon the very reason why I am an atheist! Although, there really are no "priorities" in the universe... but some events are definitely more significant than others. Regardless, all of human history is virtually meaningless on a universal scale. Hence my atheism.

It's like scientific research and medicine is only for high-society; medicine only for the rich.

The same can be said for food, shelter, security, etc. How is science to blame for something that happens because of HUMAN NATURE?

Also, blood transfusions are like turning human beings in self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monsters.

Well gee, a choice between being a self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monster in evantisin's eye or being dead... hmm, really hard decision there.

Who the fuck are you to say that someone else shouldn't be allowed to live just because the means of saving them offends your idiotic beliefs? And who the fuck are you to judge people for wanting to SAVE LIVES? It's natural to want to survive, you fuckwit.

I hate this stupid "onoz blood donations" Jehovah's Witness crap.

6/21/2008 8:22:57 PM

pete

Here's an idea evantisin. Since God will take care of your health, why not provide health insurance for someone less fortunate?

6/21/2008 8:33:20 PM

Papabear

Yeah, I was just thinking of the time faith invented the computer, and medicine, and the automobile, and construction design and techniques, and television and, well, you get the picture, don't you, evantisin?


"blood transfusions are like turning human beings in self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monsters."

Prove it. Show me a monster which has been created by way of a blood transfusion.

I'd suggest you blow it out your ass, but there seems to be quite a wind coming from there already.

6/21/2008 8:38:01 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

Your faith dictates that people deserve to suffer, no matter what. So there you go.

6/21/2008 8:38:03 PM

Eden

Neither Faith nor religion created the atom bomb; science did, and yet, modern technology is seen as some sort of "savior" of mankind's problems.People are still suffering, and they suffer far more where most needed while in first-world countries, well, why would they even want to care? It's like scientific research and medicine is only for high-society; medicine only for the rich.

Neither faith nor religion did create the atom bomb, and yet far more people were killed in the name of religion than by atom bombs.
Religion is (by religious fundamentalists) seen as the savior of mankinds problems and yet it did less to improve the loiving conditions of people in the world, than science did.
People in third world countries still suffer, and it should be our final goal to increase their living conditions as well. But often it is religion which keeps them from using the things offered to them by the western world. One example would be condomes. Condomes might save lives in african countries with a high percentage of people with HIV and they are freely distributed by many foreign aid organizations. But nevertheless many people don´t use them because their religious leaders tell them that contraceptives are forbidden and that only sinful people get AIDS.

6/21/2008 8:48:57 PM

Sawyer

He's got a point. Minus "Faith provides the answers" blahblahblah stuff, advancing technology and scientific understanding don't seem to really make the world a better place all by themselves. It's a question of application, and while understanding can aid in that, it always comes down to a moral judgment.

6/21/2008 8:56:18 PM

tmr

Remember that when you get sick and need medical attention; instead of getting it, rely on your god and see if you get another 5, 10, 15, or even 50 years from him.

6/21/2008 8:56:45 PM

Pyroclasm

Yeah, faith sure is great.

6/21/2008 9:21:53 PM

Old Viking

I'm guessing evantisin is in reasonably good health at the moment. He'll whimper like a baby when he needs medical attention.

6/21/2008 9:24:07 PM

JonnyTruant

Well, you have to consider that the conservative wing of America supports private healthcare which means that companies for profit will screw as many people as they can and ignore those who cannot pay.

If it were left up to doctors and scientists, they'd make thoughtful preventive medicine and essential treatment available to everyone.

6/21/2008 9:35:45 PM

Jud

Right. Who wants to live, anyway? Especially after Jesus preached suicide...

Oh, wait, no, you're full of shit.

Does it hurt to be that constipated?

6/21/2008 9:36:00 PM

Kiro

There are higher priorities in the universe than one's own life, don't you think?

Indeed. Carry on.

Faith is better than medicine and far more effective. Science cannot help solve everything Faith can.

So whence the existence of holy war? Plenty of faith on both sides, and people still die.

People are still suffering, and they suffer far more where most needed while in first-world countries, well, why would they even want to care? It's like scientific research and medicine is only for high-society; medicine only for the rich.

Actually... the OP kind of has a point here, I have to admit. It's something that bothers me deeply.

Also, blood transfusions are like turning human beings in self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monsters. Why extend life a 5, 10, 25, or even 50 years when higher priorities reap greater, everlasting benefits? Maybe medicine focuses on the short term benefits, not the long.

On the other hand, this is nothing but word salad. (And rather insulting to a regular blood donor. Is he suggesting my blood turns patients into monsters?! And what are these higher priorities that it could be used for anyway?)

6/21/2008 9:42:44 PM

Osiris

Right after he had a post about that kid from the Followers of Christ.

6/21/2008 9:47:06 PM

SurfinSeaOtter

That Followers of Christ kid wants to tal... oh wait...

6/21/2008 9:58:34 PM

John

Faith is better than medicine and far more effective.

No it's not. Numerous people have been jailed for relying on faith when it was clear medicine could have saved the person's life. Faith instead of common sense isn't even supported by the Bible. Read Matthew 4:1-11.

6/21/2008 10:51:31 PM

Sawyer

He kinda goes on to be more reasonable...

6/21/2008 10:56:47 PM

HeathenAngel

"There are higher priorities in the universe than one's own life, don't you think?"

Absolutely. The lives and physical safety of loved ones.. leaps to mind.

"Faith is better than medicine and far more effective."

Or... NOT. Seeing as how a study was done and it proved that prayer (faith) is actually a NEGATIVE thing for recovering heart patients. Seeing as how I've seen families who thought that their faith would be enough to pull them through a trying time, during disease.. lose everything, while the family that went to a Dr. for a cure was able to bounce back.

"Science cannot help solve everything"

Nor does it claim that it can.

"Faith can."

No.. it really can't.

"Make as many medical discoveries as you want, but why allow the world to suffer and keep from supplying those most in need from medicine? Science is getting almost hypocritical in the purpose by which it exists. Neither Faith nor religion created the atom bomb; science did, and yet, modern technology is seen as some sort of "savior" of mankind's problems."

Religion and faith brought about the Salem Witch Trials, as well as all the previous witch trials throughout Europe, the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Holocaust, 9/11.. should I go on? Science didn't do that.

"People are still suffering, and they suffer far more where most needed while in first-world countries, well, why would they even want to care? It's like scientific research and medicine is only for high-society; medicine only for the rich."

Not entirely true, but there is some merit to the "medicine only for the rich" portion of your spew.

"Consider that. If people cannot afford an appropriate way to access medicine, what else do they have to look to?"

Certainly not myth and superstition.

"Also, blood transfusions are like turning human beings in self-righteous, desperate Frankenstein monsters."

You watch too much TV.

"Why extend life a 5, 10, 25, or even 50 years when higher priorities reap greater, everlasting benefits? Maybe medicine focuses on the short term benefits, not the long.

Science is getting at the worst in human beings' value of themselves and the world.
"

Ahhhh yes.. and we shouldn't value the world that we will leave our children and their children and their children's children. We should be selfish and rape the world.. what do we care? We won't be around to suffer the consequences.

What was that again about self-righteousness, priorities and selfishness again?

6/21/2008 11:26:47 PM
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