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*a woman pointed out a man who tortured her in court*

Indeed, any female will point to the guy at the defense table. If the defense had been allowed to switch the accused with some spectator, and put the accused seated in the third row with the tourists, she still would have pointed at the man at the accused table. Witness testimony is worse than useless. They would convict a ham sandwich if the rules allowed them to accuse one.

bobx23456, Court hears alleged rapist subjected student to 19-hour torture ordeal 44 Comments [6/21/2008 8:19:29 PM]
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Ozymandias

These aren't fundie. Utterly moronic...jerkish....but not fundie.

6/21/2008 8:22:58 PM

aaa

Bob, the basement dweller.

6/21/2008 8:23:51 PM

sofia the antichrist - I am god!

These anti-woman quotes aren't fundie... but I do think this site needs a "Misogynists/misandrists say the darndest things" section.

6/21/2008 8:30:42 PM

Papabear

Stupid, demeaning, ignorant, but not Fundie.

6/21/2008 8:31:11 PM

Boxtop

He's got a point, though. Men have a tougher time in court than women do, and women can get away with accusing innocent men of crimes they didn't commit.

6/21/2008 8:32:30 PM

Joe-Bob

As sexist as this is he's right. All eye witness testimony is incredibly unreliable. Study after study confirms what we are now realizing through the use of scientific evidence...eye witness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence. There are stories of crafty defense lawyers who pulled the trick of having another man sit at the accused's position while the real defendant sat at another part of the courtroom. The witness still pointed to the man at the defendant's table.

6/21/2008 8:37:12 PM

Joe-Bob

My prior comment does not endorse the sexism in this post. In college I actually reviewed several studies that found women to be slightly (albeit insignificantly) more reliable as eye-witnesses than men.

6/21/2008 8:38:01 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

These anti-woman quotes aren't fundie... but I do think this site needs a "Misogynists/misandrists say the darndest things" section.

We really should just rename the "racists say the darndest things" section to "bigots say the darndest things" - that preseves its original function but also covers scum like this guy.

There are stories of crafty defense lawyers who pulled the trick of having another man sit at the accused's position while the real defendant sat at another part of the courtroom. The witness still pointed to the man at the defendant's table.

Unfortunately, that's a biased result - who in their right mind would expect someone other than the accused to be in the accused's place? What would be more useful would be to know if this apparent unreliability of eyewitnesses can be reproduced in a more controlled situation with neutral placement of people, like a police lineup.

6/21/2008 8:38:02 PM



He may have a point, but the way he comes off is incredibly offensive. I doubt he would question the witness testimony if it had been a man who had been tortured and raped.

6/21/2008 8:40:17 PM

Joe-Bob

@Brain_In_A_Jar:

Like all of the psych studies done on eye-witness accounts in the past two or three decades. This has been studied over and over and over. Eye-witnesses are horribly unreliable. Go look up some of the studies for yourself. They shouldn't be hard to find on the internet.

6/21/2008 8:56:06 PM

Teh L0Lz

That quote was origially given by a judge but not (about women) he was talking that witnestestimony is the most unrelyable because it is very subjective.


sad that this guy misuses such a famous quote :(

6/21/2008 9:03:12 PM

BCD

Why is this included.

6/21/2008 9:05:20 PM

Laura

Bunch of powerless, no-pussy-getting whiny douchebags on that site.

6/21/2008 9:08:32 PM



uh?

So... if a woman gets raped or beaten up or tortured, she'll be unconcerned with putting the assailant in jail? How do you figure that?

6/21/2008 9:16:02 PM

Nic

I don't think this is fundie either. Maybe we need a "Totally reprehensible and disgusting people say the darndest things".

6/21/2008 9:16:53 PM

Old Viking

"Witness testimony"? Wasn't she a tad more than a witness? Supposedly the guy had put her through a 19-hour rape/torture ordeal.

"Mrs. Smith, you say your husband beat you to within an inch of your life."

"Yes. Well I'm pretty sure it was my husband."

6/21/2008 9:17:34 PM

Pyroclasm

Misogynistic, dumb as a rock, but not fundie.

6/21/2008 9:22:55 PM

Septic Sceptic

"Mrs X, can you see your mugger anywhere in this courtroom?"

"Yes, I can. He's right there at the defense table."

"Wrong, Mrs X! The man accused of attacking you is at the back of the courtroom! The target of your accusations is in fact... a ham sandwich."

"Case dismissed!"

6/21/2008 9:27:08 PM

Jud

Police line ups happen long before trials, asshole.

Go fuck yourself.

Guys like this ought to be forced to walk around a dark park late at night at night with a "rape me" sign on his back.

6/21/2008 9:37:51 PM

sofia the antichrist - I am god!

For those of you going on about eye-witness testimony, you're not realizing that this woman was held captive by this man for nearly 20 hours, and his face was in full view the entire time. In cases where the event happened quickly -- a mugging, robberies, rape, etc. -- eye-witness accounts are rarely accurate, but when the perp's face is visible for an extended period of time, such as a kidnapping case like this one, they tend to be more accurate. Not 100% perfect, of course, but I doubt she was wrong about his identity.

6/21/2008 9:43:46 PM

SWGM

Misogynist Say the Darndest Things.

6/21/2008 10:05:20 PM

Buer

This is not fundy. I guess I'll just keep saying this: only post fundy quotes. Right wing or crazy or you just don't like what is being said does NOT equal fundy.

6/21/2008 10:11:06 PM

Shann

Stupid, worthless, misogynist, pissed off because he can't get laid for whatever reason (most likely for being a stupid, worthless misogynist).

I don't know if he's fundie but he and the other knuckledraggers on that site qualify as all of the above.

6/21/2008 10:13:33 PM

Eileen

Not fundie. But still really stupid. I think a woman would recognize the man who tortured her for almost a day (if she saw his face).

And the quote is "indite a ham sandwhich" not convict.


6/21/2008 10:25:19 PM

John

Generally, the accused is identified in a line-up first. Then the indictment is based on that. Then the witness is asked for the record to identify the guy in court.

6/21/2008 10:47:40 PM
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