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www.ldolphin.org/wmwilliams.html

does this site disprove evolution? if not, how do you disprove the site?

[after a couple of people pointed out the pamphlet was from the 1920s and laughable]

I undertand why you dont want to read it.
You have to have motivation to do virtually anything.
So what if its written over eighty years ago?
The Bible "...it is written"
The Evolutionary Textbook, it is rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, etc.

Berzerkirs, Nationstates (General) 28 Comments [6/22/2008 2:38:04 AM]
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Submitted By: blackgem
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agentCDE

Yes, because a horribly-translated 2000 year old book, which has been edited countless times and with far more bias than any textbook, is far better than an expansive field of research which constantly tries to improve itself.

Then again, I'm not surprised someone who'd quote a pamphlet from the 19freaking20's would shit bricks at the slightest hint of change.

6/22/2008 2:43:26 AM

Bryan65

The bible was rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, echo, echo, echo...

6/22/2008 2:47:23 AM

anonymous_troy

In light of new evidence. The Bible was right enough for us 1000 years ago, now it doesn't make any sense.

6/22/2008 2:56:42 AM

Allegory for Jesus

You're talking points have remained the same for decades, and have remained equally wrong. Science has improved, and shown that the old Creationist positions were even more wrong than were originally expected.

But yes, science updating itself is indicative of flaws. Obviously, we must trust the Bible due to that fact. Perfect sense.

6/22/2008 3:00:52 AM

Horsefeathers

"So what if its written over eighty years ago?"

We've discovered one or two things since then. Technology has advanced a tiny bit too.

"The Bible "...it is written""

Yeah, yeah. It says a lot of things. It also says, "In the beginning..." and goes downhill quickly from there.

"The Evolutionary Textbook, it is rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, etc."

No shit stupid. That's what makes it fucking valuable.

6/22/2008 3:09:16 AM

Pyroclasm

That's because as scientists learn new things, they change and modify their theories to better accommodate the facts. That's part of the reason the bible fails so hard. It just can't keep up with the times.

6/22/2008 3:31:31 AM

Osiris

New evidence has come up since that pamphlet was written that now negate the "facts" within it. Why is it bad that science constantly updates itself?

6/22/2008 3:47:05 AM

Mike

You do know how the scientific method works, don't you? Oh you don't, well no wonder.

6/22/2008 3:47:17 AM



Why argue about a poorly written, 80 year old, fundie propaganda, anti-evolution pamphlet that was obviously written as an advertisement to sell the author's books for profit?

6/22/2008 3:55:16 AM

DarkfireTaimatsu

Hey, dingbat. Please learn that new information being added to a textbook, or revisions taking place, is not a BAD thing. It means we have more understanding, douche-clown.

6/22/2008 4:03:23 AM

Fanatic-Templar

The Bible "...it is written"
The Evolutionary Textbook, it is rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, etc.


Yes, one must admire one's willingness to remain wrong, whatever the truth may be.

6/22/2008 4:23:53 AM

Yog-Sothoth

Berzerkirs, congrats. You stayed the course.

6/22/2008 4:49:25 AM

Yog-Sothoth

Berzerkirs, congrats. You stayed the course.

6/22/2008 4:49:31 AM

Amos

It looks like it contains another one of those population growth curves that just absolutely disproves evolution.

Except that it's not even internally consistent.

Major world events sometimes involving millions of people per local event--according to the guy's own supposed history--took place on a world with double- and triple-digit human populations.

Don't they check still crap before publishing? Don't people actually think when they're reading it?

6/22/2008 5:59:06 AM

The Outsider

Wow! That pamphlet is proof that Creationists arguments have not changed one bit in the last 80 years.

6/22/2008 6:27:56 AM

aaa

You sound like you take Jack Chick seriously.

6/22/2008 6:49:05 AM

Fishcakes

That's the good thing about science. It does change when evidence is found, observed, tested, and proven. It's better than "well, a bunch of old men way the hell back in the day decided that this is the way things should go, so people in the twenty-first century should think the same."

6/22/2008 9:00:06 AM

IanC

"The Evolutionary Textbook, it is rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, etc."

And thats a good thing. Jeez.

Also - Nationstates? Fundies really are everywhere.

6/22/2008 9:45:56 AM

Laura

It updates its ideas to fit new discoveries. If religion did that, things would be a lot better everywhere, IMO.


6/22/2008 11:24:18 AM

Alcari

The Bible "...it is written"
The Evolutionary Textbook, it is rewritten, rewritten, rewritten, etc.


Yup, and it gets better everything time, unlike the bible, which stays just as wrong as ever.

6/22/2008 12:09:46 PM

blackgem

I have to say the mathematics argument kinda breaks down when you realize even the Bible contradicts it.

IanC - yes, we occasionally get fundies on the Nationstates General forum. They don't tend to last long but they do make a wonderful BBQ whilst they're there.

6/22/2008 12:22:46 PM

Mister Spak

The writer of this pamphet claims there is no written record of civilisation before the invention of writing.

This proves fundies haven't evolved since 1925.

6/22/2008 12:41:32 PM

Wait. What?

You jerk we're supposed to make the arguments against the bible.
That said, the bible has been rewritten a shitload too, and it's still wrong.

6/22/2008 7:57:09 PM

Antichrist

Well lets use their math.

They claim the population of the earth is 1,073,741,824 in 1925.
They claim the population of the earth doubles every 168 years.

So by 2093 the population of the world will be 2,147,483,648
Current world population is 6,602,224,175

Oops.
Although I have bookmared the argument for further reading. Amazing how their arguments haven't changed in 80 years.

6/22/2008 9:45:23 PM

tmr

Over 80 years ago your computer wasn't even a glimmer in someone's eye.

Times have change. People have learned. New theories, and technologies, have developed.

So, your argument is?

6/22/2008 11:28:12 PM
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