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(in an article about the unfortunate "Teen Pregnancy Pact" in Massachusetts)

The reality is society has created a generation of callous, spoiled people, which is so clearly demonstrated with this teen girl pregnancy pact. No amount of sex education or birth control would have prevented at least 9 of these pregnancies, but the first response from the Left is more money, more education, more birth control!

How about more discipline, a stronger sense of responsibility, and no public funds used to support any of the girls involved in such pregnancy pacts. They made their “choice,” and they can live with the consequences.

unnamed, eMaxHealth 40 Comments [6/22/2008 5:27:20 AM]
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clockworkgirl21

Those girls are just stupid. It isn't education that did it. And I don't believe the left has said anything about it.

6/22/2008 5:31:57 AM

Lucilius

So, get back at the teen moms by making sure their kids' lives are ruined? Yeah, that's the Christian way for you, all right - that's exactly how Original Sin works. Xenophanes was right: people do make their gods like themselves. The Christian God is a vindictive, deranged bastard just like his followers.

6/22/2008 5:39:33 AM

Jud

Right. Because the correct response to the decision of a CHILD is permanent poverty and soul crushing struggle for herself and for her child. That's what Jesus would've wanted.

Never mind that she's not old enough to legally consent, and therefore, the conception was a result of rape.

6/22/2008 5:46:08 AM

Moon Wolfhowl

A stronger sense of responsibility is good.

But I'm not seeing how sex education and birth control made them irresponsible.

6/22/2008 5:47:17 AM

Amos

Supposedly, they did it to bring some love into their lives. At least according to the initial report I'd heard.

To me, the whole thing is just sad. It raises questions about the parents, friends, the whole culture in that area. How could so many people's relationships be so screwed up? What was going on at these homes?

But since the symptom (the girls' actions) is all you see, you're happy to slap down some "discipline" and "responsibility". Have fun in the shallow end.

6/22/2008 5:50:54 AM

clockworkgirl21

Never mind that she's not old enough to legally consent, and therefore, the conception was a result of rape.

It may have legally been rape, but was it *actually* rape? No.

6/22/2008 6:02:06 AM

approximate

Hormones trump discipline. Always have, always will. Returning to a "simpler time" where unwed mothers had to "go away" so as not to "shame" the "family" is impossible.

Deal with it.

6/22/2008 6:25:00 AM

werewolf

And what would your proposal achieve? You are a heartless, irresponsible barbarian unfit for modern society.

6/22/2008 6:25:51 AM

Kiro

Why not education, birth control, and a stronger sense of responsibility? The sex ed at my school might have included an embarrassing video but two things we did learn were that we're responsible for our own bodies and that looking after a baby isn't all sweetness and light.

But this idea of punishing the baby for what his or her mother did is nothing short of ridiculous. If the child happens to be a girl and grows up in poverty, guess what? She's more likely to get pregnant young as well!

6/22/2008 6:29:35 AM

aaa

They are just stupid.

6/22/2008 6:58:42 AM

Amanda

I love how sex education and birth control couldn't have prevented these pregnancies. Last I checked, birth control, when used properly, is 99% effective in preventing pregnancy. This poster must be a doctor, and have access to the reproductive records of all these girls...or he's psychic. Or he knows something about birth control that I don't.

6/22/2008 7:54:50 AM

Ambrielle

I read that that was a strongly Catholic area.

6/22/2008 8:35:45 AM

Fishcakes

But what will invite them to be disciplined and responsible? Certainly not, "well, it's your own damn fault, live with it." Education and understanding breed responsibility and discipline.

...at least, that's the way it should be.

6/22/2008 8:56:55 AM

Crazy Fundie

These girls behaved irresponsibly despite sex ed and access to birth control, and not because of it – obviously, since the goal of birth control is to prevent pregnancy as opposed to encouraging it.

6/22/2008 9:16:57 AM

Kinderklein

@Ambrielle
"The question of what to do next has divided this fiercely Catholic enclave."

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1815845,00.html

6/22/2008 10:36:16 AM

Cabal

The money's not for the mothers, it's ultimately for the kids, retard. It's not their fault.

6/22/2008 10:40:31 AM

CT

@Kiro If the child happens to be a girl and grows up in poverty, guess what? She's more likely to get pregnant young as well!

And then unnamed here can rant about that teen girl pregnancy too!

6/22/2008 11:00:18 AM

Laura

How would sex education or birth control not have helped? Obviously these girls didn't have much of either to begin with, it couldn't have hurt.

6/22/2008 11:13:53 AM

Mister Spak

The reality is society has created a generation of callous, spoiled people, which is so clearly demonstrated by this poster when he said "They made their “choice,” and they can live with the consequences."

6/22/2008 12:13:31 PM

Yojimbo

Did anyone read the article, this is far from fundie. This is just a person pissed at a group of teens making major life altering decisions on a pact and expecting the rest of us all to pick up the pieces.

These girls were trying to get pregnant, hence the author is correct, no amount of birth control would have worked cause the teens would not have used it to begin with. They were trying with focused purpose to get pregnant.

I have no doubt in my mind that these girls knew what a condom was or where in any way, shape or form unaware of other forms of birth control.

6/22/2008 12:18:02 PM

szena

Wait a minute - is this guy whining about the fact that 14-15 year old girls sometimes behave irresponsibly?

6/22/2008 1:19:53 PM

xander8

I agree with him that they shouldn't receive any tax money after doing something so stupid. They'll never be productive members of society now, so society should stop wasting money on them.

Better sex ed would help, but so would impressing upon these vapid little cunts that creating another human being is not a game or a joke.

6/22/2008 1:28:49 PM

Princess Rot

Having read the article in question, I can confirm that most of these girls had babies in order to feel loved, something they clearly weren't getting at home. It seems the community has deeper problems than just some irresponsible teenagers. They only seem to see the happy, smiling baby and budding toddler, not the selfish, whining, sick or restless baby that it will be. Their fantasy bubble is going to be burst pretty quickly, and it saddens me deeply that these girls have been brought up to believe they are only worth what's between their legs/the products of their uterus's so much so that they have babies at shockingly young ages in order to feel a sense of purpose.

6/22/2008 4:59:41 PM

Professor M

It's probably a pretty good prediction that most of the Left would support "more education" in situations like this -- mostly because "more education" is just generally a good idea. In this case in particular, the girls' school supported "abstinence only" "education", meaning that the girls were lied to about almost every aspect of sex, reproduction, raising children, and birth control. "More education" as to what taking care of a child actually requires might well have convinced many of these girls to look for "unconditional love" from a pet instead of a child.

(As for the public funding -- as tempting as it may be to let people deal with the consequences of their own immature actions, I'm much less willing to punish the girls' children.)

6/22/2008 6:01:15 PM

tmr

Which nine were imminent? Now you've condemned the girls who made the pact, what are your plans for their children?

6/22/2008 9:47:23 PM
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