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1. Atheists are resentfully anti-religious.
2. Atheists incorrectly believe that they are not a religion.
3. Atheists incorrectly believe in the ‘absence of belief’ myth.
4. Atheists are self righteous.
5. Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion.
6. Atheists are blind fanatics.
7. Atheists argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion.
8. Atheists cry and complain about anything religious.
9. Atheists are emotionally unstable.
10. Atheists discriminate against religious.
11. Atheists are control freaks.
12. Atheists are closed minded and ignorant.
13. Atheists have little grip on reality.
14. Atheists have no concept of logic.
15. Atheists only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion.

lixluke, SciForum 57 Comments [6/25/2008 9:31:44 PM]
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BeemerRefugee1990

Vincent from the Tunnels will have a mirror in his chamber before this asshat will have one in his house. And Vincent will actually USE his!

6/25/2008 9:33:58 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

1. Fundies are resentfully anti-any-religion-that's-not-theirs.
2. Fundies incorrectly believe that theirs is the only "true" religion.
3. Fundies incorrectly believe in myths.
4. Fundies are self righteous.
5. Fundies impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other group.
6. Fundies are blind fanatics.
7. Fundiess argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion.
8. Fundies cry and complain about anything that's different from their religion.
9. Fundies are emotionally unstable.
10. Fundies discriminate against other religions.
11. Fundies are control freaks.
12. Fundies are closed minded and ignorant.
13. Fundies have little grip on reality.
14. Fundies have no concept of logic.
15. Fundies only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion.

Fixed.

6/25/2008 9:39:24 PM

Fek'lhr

This guy is a shitnail cuntscab.

6/25/2008 9:40:45 PM

TheOutsider

A rare 0-for-15 effort there. That is quite a feat.

6/25/2008 9:41:14 PM

Allegory for Jesus

1. Correction: Atheists are pleasantly and whimsically anti-religious.
2. Atheism isn't a religion. If you would like to suggest otherwise, than I could use your same logic to argue that unemployment is a career.
3. Atheism is absence of belief of god, no matter how much you disagree. It is "without theism", not "belief that theism is inherently wrong" (although, that is basically one of the other definitions). But, regardless, if atheism means what you says it does, I guess I use the label "atheism" incorrecly when applying it to myself, and I am, in actuality, something else. Really, a non-issue.
4. Some atheists are self-righteous. But they still are no competition for fundamentalists...
5. Atheists impose their non-beliefs on people who try to impose their own beliefs on them. That is pretty much the limit to our "conversion" attempts.
6. Atheists could care less about religious matters, but are gravely concerned about issues involving blind fanatics. If we are blindly fanatic in opposing blind fanatics, so be it.
7. Atheists argue for the sake of showing that there are few conclusions worth making in religious discussions.
8. Atheists try to address the negative influences of religion in the world that the fervently religious try to gloss over, and that the moderates are too willing to mitigate with over=estimations of its positive influence.
9. Atheists are too angry, too sad, too unemotional, but always not happy enough according to fundamentalists whose emotions show all the range of a lobotomy patient.
10. Atheists are a minority, pretty much universally, and are in no position to actively discriminate against the religious in any fashion greater than the religious discriminate against one another.
11. Atheists are control freaks (what is wrong with that?).
12. Atheists are close minded enough to dismiss all religions instead of "every religion but the one my parents grew up with". And they are ignorant enough to accept the religious regardless of the dismissal of the religion they hold.
13. Atheists only have a grip on reality, and do not rely on the supernatural or fantasy to justify their existence.
14. Atheists pretty much have the most consistency in application of logic, in that they do not special exceptions when it comes to religion for what constitutes a rational argument.
15. Atheists know that there is no conclusion, and most conclusions desired by the religious rest upon false, or unverifiable premises. They also enjoy attacking people who do not see this. Mostly for the lulz.

In summary: That is 15 points of PHAIL, right thar.

6/25/2008 9:48:34 PM

CeilingCat

Some atheists are assholes. Some Christians are assholes. Some Buddhists are assholes. Hell I guess some Girl Scouts aren't really pleasant to be around. I don't really see a point to this list, people are dicks, what do you want?

6/25/2008 9:50:23 PM

David D.G.

(*sigh*) In Fundieland, it's always Opposite Day.


~David D.G.

6/25/2008 9:50:43 PM

toothache

Project much?

6/25/2008 9:52:24 PM

daken

sir, I disagree with your hate speech, but I will fight to the death for your freedom to say it

6/25/2008 9:54:48 PM

John

Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion.

Damn atheists! How dare they impose their belief that I should be stopped from pushing my beliefs down other peoples' throats. It's like, if I'm punching somebody in the face, should they have the right to stop me? Heck no! They're imposing their sissy anti-violence beliefs on me! [/sarcasm]

6/25/2008 10:00:20 PM

Thammuz

Wow, 15 shots and not even a hit, what are you? blind?

6/25/2008 10:02:23 PM

POSW

1. I'm not an atheist, so I can't speak for them. My own religious beliefs are something along the lines of "I'm so confused I don't even know whether I'm an agnostic or not." But I think that atheists who are former fundies have the right to be resentful. After all, they swallowed the "Jesus died for our sins" shit for years before they worked out the logical problems with it.

2. Atheism: Religion, Bald: Hair Color

3. Please explain how you know what atheists believe better than they do. And if it's through some sort of mind reading, why don't you put those psychic powers towards stopping terrorism?

The rest of them:

6/25/2008 10:08:59 PM

GigaGuess

1. Atheists are resentfully anti-religious.
NON-religious. There's a difference.

2. Atheists incorrectly believe that they are not a religion.
To quote the well-used line, "atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color."

3. Atheists incorrectly believe in the ‘absence of belief’ myth.
Ah, stand in awe of the Fundie Psychic, who knows what everyone believes better than they do.

4. Atheists are self righteous.
Mirror polish! Getcher mirror polish, right here!

5. Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion.
Yeah, I can't go anywhere without those darned atheists tell me I have to not believe or I'll burn in non-hell.

6. Atheists are blind fanatics.
WHO are the ones who believe the world was made in 6 days out of a blank void by an inexplicably bored deity with nothing better to do with his eternity, just because a millennia old book says so?

7. Atheists argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion.
And you guys don't?

8. Atheists cry and complain about anything religious.
When it's being force fed to us, yes. We do.

9. Atheists are emotionally unstable.
Got any sources for that wild claim?

10. Atheists discriminate against religious.
No, we just stand our ground when the zealots come flying in, screeching like howler monkeys.

11. Atheists are control freaks.
Uh-huh...

12. Atheists are closed minded and ignorant.
Again, what group refuses to believe anything that doesn't come from their holy book TO THE POINT OF SOME STILL BELIEVING THE EARTH IS FLAT?!

13. Atheists have little grip on reality.
Shiny

14. Atheists have no concept of logic.
Shiny

15. Atheists only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion.
Mirror! Seriously, YOU'RE the one compiling list comprised of wild assertions and flat out libel.

6/25/2008 10:09:07 PM

sofia the antichrist

As an atheist...

1) I am not anti-religious. I am against the actions perpetrated by certain religious groups, not the religions themselves.
2) I am not religious. Atheism, by definition, cannot be a religion.
3) I have no belief in a higher power, so I would say that "absence of belief" isn't a myth.
4) I try not to be self-righteous, but I'm only human.
5) I would never force my beliefs on someone else. To do so would go against my inner morality. I strongly believe in free thought.
6) I'm hardly a fanatic. I'm not afraid to express my beliefs, but I don't obsess over them.
7) While I enjoy winning a debate (again, I'm only human), I would prefer to be proven wrong and learn something new over continuing to hold onto a false belief.
8) I am not bothered by religious ceremonies, prayers, etc. I am bothered by people using religion to harm others which is, again, a dislike of ACTIONS, not religion itself.
9) All human beings are emotionally unstable.
10) For the third time, I don't hate all religion.
11) I do not wish to control anyone. I support free speech, free thought and freedom of religion.
12) I try my best to be open-minded. Like every single person on this planet, I am ignorant of many things... but I strike to educate myself.
13) As far as I know, I have a pretty good grip on reality. Then again, all of this could very well be a delusion, and I'm locked up in a psych ward somewhere.
14) Logic was always one of my strong points in school. Of course, I am imperfect and do make mistakes. At least I admit to it.
15) I only with to educate people and deliver them from ignorance. I never attack anyone.

6/25/2008 10:11:39 PM

pete

lacking a real atheist to examine, lixluke (eew!) stared at his mirror and let his imagination take over.

6/25/2008 10:14:29 PM

aaa

My mirror of irony just imploded.

6/25/2008 10:24:04 PM

Septic Sceptic

Let's see if I can work some Carlin magic on this nonsense.

7 & 15 are basically the same thing. Just say "Atheists are agressive" 14 point list.

1, 5, 8 & 10 could be "Atheists have no respect for other belief systems". 11 point list.

4, 6, 9, 11 & 12 could be "Atheists are nuts". 7 point list.

2, 3, 13 & 14 could be "Atheists are delusional". 4 point list.

The "Nuts" and "Delusional" categories are pretty similar, and can be combined. 3 point list.

"Aggressive" and "No respect" can also be merged. 2 point list.

Place the two remaining points under the heading of "I know jack shit about atheism" and you have my revised list of "One reason why Lixluke is a steaming vat of FAIL".

6/25/2008 10:25:29 PM

WhyDontYou.Org.UK

Somewhat ironic this, isnt it?

6/25/2008 10:26:15 PM

FMG

1. Atheists are resentfully anti-religious.

Vehemently. We feel that deluding yourself with sky fairies and not dealing with the reality of the world


2. Atheists incorrectly believe that they are not a religion.


And vacuum is incorrectly labelled as vacuum when in fact its a gas.


3. Atheists incorrectly believe in the ‘absence of belief’ myth.


What's that?


4. Atheists are self righteous.


Pot and Kettle, meet Mr. Lixluke.


5. Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion.


Yes. Because our beliefs and doctrines treat religions equally and indeed allow there to be a general harmonious working between everyone as opposed to some "dick" spoiling it for the rest of us. Also a lot of our beliefs are based on science which is the only thing separating us from living like an ape. The pointed stick, fire and wheel is the driving force for our current existence.


6. Atheists are blind fanatics.


The onus of proof of your divinity is based on your evidence. I can't say that "I have a cure for Common Cold" and then not show it to anyone. Everyone is in their right to show their disbelief till I provide my evidence and proof. So far any evidence you guys produce is decidedly weak and can be used to argue for "ANY" god. Not just yours.


7. Atheists argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion.


Conclusions? We deal in science. There are no absolutes. Which is why we call things "theories" because they may be wrong or incorrect or incomplete. We understand that our knowledge is incomplete, but instead of sticking our heads in the sand like "the faithful" we get up and inquire.


8. Atheists cry and complain about anything religious.


And you moan about other religions.


9. Atheists are emotionally unstable.


Amusingly the symptoms of insanity are very similar to the symptoms of faith in religion. If its Elvis instead of Jesus giving you instructions then you are mad...


10. Atheists discriminate against religious.


Only if your faith impinges on your ability to work.


11. Atheists are control freaks.


On the things that we CAN control yes. If it were upto you guys we would still be dying of smallpox.


12. Atheists are closed minded and ignorant.


I will be the first to admit that we are ignorant. But we are not close minded. We would believe in a God should he provide proof. Its called skeptical. Its the reason why we are harder to con.


13. Atheists have little grip on reality.


And your belief in an entity who has never provided proof of his existence is based on reality?


14. Atheists have no concept of logic.


Yes. Because belief in a natural series of events is less logical than believing in the supernatural.


15. Atheists only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion.


Because there is no conclusion. There is always a minute possibility that a God exists. There are other possibilities equally minute. However there is a much larger possibility that we are right. And we are not raging dicks like your guys.

6/25/2008 10:35:33 PM

Tom S. Fox

DarkfireTaimatsu: "2. Fundies incorrectly believe that theirs is the only "true" religion."

Actually, if they are Christian fundies, they actually believe they are not members of a religion.

6/25/2008 10:37:17 PM

Old Viking

Well, maybe so, but we're always happy to accept party invitations.

6/25/2008 10:50:36 PM

David B.

GigaGuess wrote: "To quote the well-used line, "atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.""

I've never understood this, being bald doesn't mean someone doesn't have a hair colour, you just have to check somewhere else.

6/25/2008 11:20:37 PM

Wait. What?

"1. Atheists are resentfully anti-religious."
Well, I think religion dicks in things too much. But ultimately I'm fine with it, just not in the state of dogmatism and declaration of supremacy.

"2. Atheists incorrectly believe that they are not a religion."
Webster defines religion as:
1. The service and worship of God or the supernatural-No
2. A personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices-Not really. The only really institutionalized belief (which only occurs with an institution, which we don't have) is a lack of a belief in a deity.
3. Scrupulous conformity-I guess the whole lack of a god is something we all conform to, so you've got me here
4. A cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith-No

"3. Atheists incorrectly believe in the ‘absence of belief’ myth. "
No, though we do correctly hold the absence of belief concept. Based on the absence of evidence.

"4. Atheists are self righteous. "
No. There are people who are self righteous, but this is not exclusive to atheists or a necessary factor of being an atheist.

"5. Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion."
HAHAHA! Lying for Jesus!

"6. Atheists are blind fanatics."
No. Atheism is naturally counteractive to fanaticism.

"7. Atheists argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion."
No. As with self righteousness, this is something that applies to idiots, regardless of whether or not the have a religion or not.

"8. Atheists cry and complain about anything religious."
No. Bitchy people complain about anything that in any way they find contradictory. I can find any number of up-tight religious nuts who want to put prayer in school, who want to impose their beliefs onto school curriculum, and to make their ideals the mandate of hospitals, among others.

"9. Atheists are emotionally unstable."
Non-sequitur. Show me anything that connects lack of religion to emotionally instability.

"10. Atheists discriminate against religious."
No.

"11. Atheists are control freaks."
The fuck? How'd you get from free-thought to control freaks?

"12. Atheists are closed minded and ignorant."
No. The foundation of religion is closed-mindedness and ignorance of obvious things.

"13. Atheists have little grip on reality."
We're not the ones believing in something that ain't there.

"14. Atheists have no concept of logic."
Explain. Last I checked most atheists base their life and their philosophies on logic.

"15. Atheists only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion."
No.

6/25/2008 11:33:50 PM

GigaGuess

@David B.

This...is true. Perhaps that line should be retired.

@Wait. What?

"6. Atheists are blind fanatics."
No. Atheism is naturally counteractive to fanaticism.


I...ah...have to disagree here. I've seen atheists willing to lay into a person just as aggressively as any Fundie, with just as much tenacity and become just as dense. When it comes to ideologies, you have fanatics of all stripes.

6/25/2008 11:36:18 PM

tracer

Tom S. Fox wrote:

"Actually, if they are Christian fundies, they actually believe they are not members of a religion."


Except at tax time.

6/26/2008 12:50:01 AM
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