The prohibition of establishment of religion was a prohibition against the FEDERAL government. There are cities now establishing islam as a religion simply by virtue of making it almost impossible for anyone who isn't muslim to live there. Prayers five times a day, loudspeakers broadcating the call to prayer and it has to be loud enough to wake people up otherwise what's the point.
Here we have one person coming to a town, voluntarily we presume, who is now intending to dictate to that town. In a better world, he would have been tarred, featherd and run out of town tied to a rail.
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What country do you live in? Because, if it is America, I think you may be a citizen of its Bizarro World equivalent...
" In a better world, he would have been tarred, featherd and run out of town tied to a rail."
That must be what Heaven is like for you people...
Islam is a religion. There are a handful of mosques in the US. They are fairly loud, but so are churches with their "Bells".
You know why Islam is dangerous? Because you keep forcing their crazies underground. As opposed to "in the open" where we can keep and eye on trouble makers.
"The prohibition of establishment of religion was a prohibition against the FEDERAL government."
This was true until the incorporationists came along after the 14th amendment. You fail basic high school government class. Please take a job at walmart for $7.50/hour.
@Joe-Bob:
Ah, but the Wal-Mart job only pays $7.50 (if you're lucky, you're in a state with a minimum wage that high, and if the management is feeling unusually law-abiding) for the hours worked on the clock.
In my old hometown, we had a church two buildings down from where I lived that played LOUD gospel music over the loudspeakers three times a day. You could literally hear it over half the town. It used to wake me up very early in the morning.
But I'm sure Kathy30 wouldn't have a problem with this.
Um, the First Amendment doesn't just prevent establishment of religion, it also prevents prohibition of free exercise thereof. If you don't like it, move somewhere else.
"In a better world, he would have been tarred, featherd and run out of town tied to a rail."
In a better world, you'd be driven out into the wilderness and thrown out of society, after we first taught you to conjugate the verb "feather".
"The prohibition of establishment of religion was a prohibition against the FEDERAL government. There are cities now establishing islam as a religion simply by virtue of making it almost impossible for anyone who isn't muslim to live there."
Name one.
"Prayers five times a day, loudspeakers broadcating the call to prayer and it has to be loud enough to wake people up otherwise what's the point."
Well, if you happen to live by a fucking Mosque then I would expect such things. It's no different than the fucking church down the street from me ringing it's bell every fucking Sunday. Damn thing sounds like a cowbell. You'd think they'd at least have sprung for one that sounded nice...
As long as they're keeping to the noise laws for that particular area there's not a fuck of a lot you can do. Freedom of Religion and all that.
"Here we have one person coming to a town, voluntarily we presume, who is now intending to dictate to that town. In a better world, he would have been tarred, featherd and run out of town tied to a rail."
Who? Go ahead, name him. Name the town. Name the general fucking region where this fabricated town of yours exists.
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land" - Article 6
I love the win that can be found in our constitution.
Oh please, I live just outside of the US city with the largest Middle Eastern population outside of the Middle East and it’s nothing like you claim. Yes there’s an enormous mosque (it’s rather beautiful actually) and scads of Middle Eastern businesses but the Christians still make up the vast majority of people in the area. That mosque has three or four Christian churches on each side of it, all coexisting peacefully together. Just like the rest of the people in the area.
And a call to prayer isn’t any more annoying then church bells are.
There are cities now establishing islam as a religion simply by virtue of making it almost impossible for anyone who isn't muslim to live there. Prayers five times a day, loudspeakers broadcating the call to prayer and it has to be loud enough to wake people up otherwise what's the point.
The list you've provided doesn't seem to support your claim that cities are making it impossible to live in them unless one is a Muslim. Prayer calls five times a day? How is that any different from church clocks ringing the quarter, half, and full hour? It's still loud and disruptive at "X" o'clock in the A.M. no matter the source.
I'd be willing to bet that arguments similar to yours were being used in my home town in Florida when Catholic churches started popping up back in the 1970s. This seems very likely, especially when one considers that my hometown was absolutely packed with Hispanics who came down in the summer for the strawberry/tomato/citrus harvest.
Oh, and it would have lent verisimilitude to your hack story if you could have included the name of at least one city where this is happening. At the very minimum you might have linked to a news story describing this phenomenon.
I personally favor the idea of tribal drums announcing the dawn.
Do those christian ghetto-blasters have a problem with audio feedback? It would seem that something like that could be easily engineered, and damaging to the ears in the immediate proximity.
For clarity: The person who should be "tarred and feathered" is an atheist who petitioned to have the cross removed from his town's official seal. And, yes, the country she's talking about is America.
Hard to believe someone could be this uninformed.
Hey, guess what, "Kathy". Cities are noisy. Sometimes that noise involves mosques. You want a Christian theocracy? I'm sure there's some oppressive shitholes in Africa who will take you. Mind the darkies; they're all trying to move out. In fact, there's a lucky one headed for a nice apartment and a decent job in New York, or London, or Paris, or Miami. Why don't you take his hut? There's only a 50% chance of a government death squad burning it down after you move in.
I've always thought that shouting from the minaret thing was damn antisocial in a mixed-religion neighbourhood; in any case, it's not necessary these days. We've had telephones and alarm clocks for about a goddamn century, people! Get with the times!
What? I got all the way to the last sentence, then my brain melted. If the "one person" was a non-Muslim coming to a primarily Muslim city like in your little parable, wouldn't you want THEIR rights ESPECIALLY protected?
Kathy,
What size is your bra?
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