What answer would satisfy the mind of a finite creature about an Infinite God? If the answer was given to you would you believe in something you don't understand? If you take the time to study to show yourself approved to God, a workman not being ashamed , rightfully dividing the WORD of truth, you would not have a problem with the Bible's answer to this question. Research, study weigh out the pros's and con's. Then make a choice to believe or disbelieve, because you'll have an understanding that you didn't have so the ball is in your court! Are you willing to commit time in research? (Free will is just making a choice/decision based on feelings, information or some guided unbelief or belief.)
(In response to Did God create bananas to keep atheists up at night?)
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What answer would satisfy the mind of a finite creature about an Infinite God?
I don't know ... we finite creatures don't have any problem summing the infinite series 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... Why not try us?
Many of those who are now atheists have studied the bible and/or were raised as christian, before coming to their conclusions that there is no god.
Same goes for the lots of people who came to the conclusion that christianity in the form that is followed by christian funamentalists cannot be true, but still believe in god or something/someone else.
What answer would satisfy the mind of a finite creature about an Infinite God? If the answer was given to you would you believe in something you don't understand?
He's the omnipotent and omniscient one, let him think of something.
"If the answer was given to you would you believe in something you don't understand?"
There are many aspects of many different sciences I do not understand, yet tangible forms of proof exist for these fields, therefore I believe in them. Same thing can not be said of your god therefore...
"What answer would satisfy the mind of a finite creature about an Infinite God? If the answer was given to you would you believe in something you don't understand?"
Isn't your god omnipotent? My lack of understanding of an "infinite god" should pose little problem for such a being.
If you take the time to study to show yourself approved to God...you would not have a problem with the Bible's answer to this question.
My entire scholastic career was spent in religious schools of one stripe or another. A religious class was mandatory every year. I've been taught the Bible by Ph.Ds, theologians, pastors, evangalists, revivalists and teachers. I kept an "A" average in all of my religion courses. Is 14 years of disciplined study in school combined with countless hours spent reading the Bible and praying for understanding enough for you? I understand perfectly what kind of answers the Bible gives to nearly any question and I have a serious problem with those answers.
Research, study weigh out the pros's and con's. Then make a choice to believe or disbelieve, because you'll have an understanding that you didn't have so the ball is in your court! Are you willing to commit time in research? (Free will is just making a choice/decision based on feelings, information or some guided unbelief or belief.)
I've done all that already. The more I studied and cogitated the more convinced I became that the entire Christianity game is a load. I made my choice based on in-depth study and consultation with my elders and those who were further down the road than I was in their "Walk with Christ".
I did everything you said I needed to do to make an informed decision. Does that mean you'll stop f***ing badgering me about this?
"weigh out the pros's and con's."
Your apostrophes are pissing me off. More importantly, I have, and atheism is a lot better.
God made pineapples so atheists could throw them at theists, metaphorically and literally.
"What answer would satisfy the mind of a finite creature about an Infinite God?"
One that told us whether or not there was an infinite god...
"If the answer was given to you would you believe in something you don't understand?"
Ask half of the putzes in this country who mindlessly adhere to Christianity without ever cracking a Bible...
"the Bible's answer to this question"
FAIL.
Good, someone who legitimizes atheism... studied, weighed, done, next.
Enough about the fucking bananas. Bananas, as we know them, are MAN MADE. They have been cultivated and modified for at least 8,000 years. They have little resemblance to the, naturally evolved, plantains they were engineered from. If you see intelligence in a banana? It's the intelligence of Man.
Way ahead of you there. I took the time decades ago. In general, if I see "it", I'll believe "it". If you are telling me you saw "it", I call bullshit. You didn't see "it", and you never will.
What? Someone else told you they saw "it"? Why should I believe them?
If something took my physical body through the universe and let me physically stand on other planets and stars, inside blackholes, etc. and did it all in a couple of earth days and using no equipment - totally violating at will the laws and principles of all known scientific disciplines - I might be inclined to believe something super natural was going on.
That would be a hell of a lot more convincing than rumors about a jewish convict being executed, all the while the entire body of historians of the time just conveniantly failed to mention his resurrection.
I can't imagine one newspaper not covering a story like Ted Bundy or Tookie Williams coming back from the dead - but somehow, that was missed by the Roman Empire. Maybe because it was bullshit.
<i>"Did God create bananas to keep atheists up at night?)"</i>
No, but seeing a chick eat them keeps ME up all night.
So we can never understand God because he is infinite and we are finite? This argument is common among Christians in general. If part of the Bible doesn't make sense, then it is simply because God is so much greater than us, and therefore we may not always understand his actions. But since he is greater than us, we are supposed to just assume that anything he does is just, even if it seems supremely unjust to us. Hence the reason why God is allowed to (justly) send good people to Hell simply for lack of belief, even though any human being who did this would be seen as the scum of the earth.
I don't choose to believe or disbelieve. It's not my fault that the bulk of the Bible makes no sense to me. I can PRETEND to believe, sure, but I can't truly, honestly give myself over to something I don't feel is right.
"Did God create bananas to keep atheists up at night?"
Bananas keep atheists up at night? Well, only logical explanation would be if the bananas were the atheist's nightmaWAIT A MINUTE.
Ray Comfort fan much?
'Cause Bananas really scare people.
Hey! Idiots! Bananas as we know them are a recent forced hybrid, like a lot of our modern agriculture.
As for the first part of his rant: Typical Fundie " Only those who believe can understand the Bible" ploy. We understand your Bible, the words say what they say, only Fundies can't recognize all the failure of logic, natural realities or evidence
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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