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[the whole article is full of fail, but this stood out to me the most]

A powerful method of indoctrination is to link Christian principles with negative events in order to divert thinking from the truth. Examples of association propaganda in the classroom follow, with the associated words highlighted:


“Understanding Imperialism: [Defined as] economic and political control of other nations. …Many imperialists believed that they had a God-given mission to spread Christianity.”[9]

“A total of 160,000 Spanish inhabitants, mostly men, had subjugated some 5 million Indians – all in the name of the gentle Jesus.”[10]

“Among [the conquistadors] were missionaries…. At times the goal to convert Indians was achieved by force. Many were forced to work on haciendas owned by Spaniards of the Catholic Church. Life for Indians in Spanish America was shaped by missionaries.… Millions died from disease and overwork.”[11]

The textbook’s goal is to associate Christianity with negative connotations of force and control. In the last example above, Christian missions and the church are made interchangeable with the Spanish and Conquest. Absent is the truth that missions protected Indians against both Spanish and slave-trading Indian tribes, and often were welcomed by the Indians – facts that do not conform to the preconception that Christianity is equated to destructiveness.

Michael J. Chapman, Crossroad Ministries- Anti-Christian Bias In Education 7 Comments [6/30/2008 8:54:21 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: The Lazy One
WTF?! || meh

Tom S. Fox

Look! I found a lost quote!

8/1/2008 2:20:47 AM

Anti - Dei

Seems like another "God told me so" fact. 'Cos it has no factual base.

8/1/2008 7:19:11 AM

Thats the downside of being the dominant religion, people use you to justify all kinds of evil shit.

10/3/2008 4:14:34 PM


Truth hurts, doesn't it Michael?

10/31/2012 7:21:31 AM


Owning up to your mistakes is no giving up, no matter what you might think, Michael. Owning up to the shit your religion did means you understand it was abused, and that you admit to it. Which means you'll try to do better.

Trying to sweep everything negative under the rug is just being a coward..

10/31/2012 7:51:24 AM


"Absent is the truth that missions protected Indians against both Spanish and slave-trading Indian tribes, and often were welcomed by the Indians"...

Citation needed.

10/31/2012 10:36:28 AM


"The textbook’s goal is to associate Christianity with negative connotations of force and control."

Oh, it doesn't need to. As shown in this scene from the documentary film "Jesus Camp":

Also via these quotes from it's leader, Becky Fischer (emphasis added):

'It's no wonder, with that kind of intense training and discipling, that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam. I wanna see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I wanna see them as radically laying down their lives for the Gospel as they are over in Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places, you know, because we have... excuse me, but we have the truth!'

'I can go into a playground of kids that don't know anything about Christianity, lead them to the Lord in a matter of, just no time at all, and just moments later they can be seeing visions and hearing the voice of God, because they're so open. They are so usable in Christianity.''re doing a perfectly good job of portraying, nay, proving those same negative connotations yourselves. Hitler, in his Third Reich did essentially the same, via right-wing indoctrination of kids in German schools. Hitler was a Christian. A right-winger, too. [/Godwin

Right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity is about nothing but force and control; from the whole 'Turn or Burn'/'If you don't believe as I do, you'll DIE!', right up to what Becky Fischer suggests above. One word: Dominionism.

'Anti-Christian Bias in Education'? If the likes of Becky Fischer are the alternative, then there can never be enough Anti-Fundie bias, preferably via enforceable legislation; legal teeth. See, when the likes of you right-wing fundies force your own Dominionist agenda on everyone else who don't want it, we left-wing Atheists have every right in the world to force back. Your vile Dominionist Theocratic agenda has absolutely no right to exist.

10/31/2012 11:02:14 AM