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"and explain to then why King James is so super cool,wouldn't it be better to go for one of the other English translated,less tyrannical influence,than trying to convince King James was great"

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"First of all, King James was one of the best kings, if not THE best king, that England ever had. He had nothing to do with the actual translation work, other than granting his permission for the work to be done, and seeing to it that the translation committee had what they needed to get the job done."

It doesn't MATTER whether James was a Christian, a non-Christian, a good Christian, a bad Christian or an indifferent Christian. If you do the homework, I think you will find some interesting reading and a good testament to the moral values and manner of living of King James in his letter to his son in the book "Basilicon Doron".

Trying to character assassinate James is a red herring, a straw man argument, and totally irrelevant to the real issue. The point is that THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS A TRUE AND FAITHFUL TRANSLATION OF THE RIGHT MANUSCRIPTS AND IS THE BEST BIBLE THAT HAS EVER BEEN PRINTED (OR, IMHO, WILL EVER BE PRINTED). The tactics of the "Yea Hath God Said? Society" never change.

cold fusion, PrisonPlanet 14 Comments [6/30/2008 4:22:37 PM]
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The KJV Bible is probably the most inaccurate English-language Bible that has ever been written.

9/27/2008 11:59:50 PM

Slayer

"THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS... THE BEST BIBLE THAT HAS EVER BEEN PRINTED"

So, the word of your infallible God is even better in the version he didn't directly influence? WTF

9/28/2008 5:42:14 AM

Boom de yada!

Anything written by man is to be doubted without question.

Anything written by God...makes a man insane.

9/28/2008 6:21:03 AM

Larty

Hardly makes any sense that the millionth translation of a translation of the Bible is more accurate to what it's writers originally intended.

9/28/2008 6:44:43 AM

Michael

James I of England (VI of Scotland) was by no means the best King of England, that honor belongs to Charles II whose reign heralded the demise of brutal theocracy.
The bible is the most wholly inaccurate and contradictory pieces of man-made shit ever, and subsequent "improvements" have served only to amplify the mumbo-jumbo that is used to justify its very existance.

9/28/2008 7:16:05 AM

Efrain

Genesis 8:11
And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.

Genesis 13:18
Then Abram removed his tent, and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar unto the LORD.

Genesis 15:11
And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.

Genesis 23:2
And Sarah died in Kirjatharba; the same is Hebron in the land of Canaan: and Abraham came to mourn for Sarah, and to weep for her.

Genesis 24:62
And Isaac came from the way of the well Lahairoi; for he dwelt in the south country.

Genesis 27:18
And he came unto his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I; who art thou, my son?

Need I go on?

11/20/2008 9:38:20 PM

3chordwonder

"First of all, King James was one of the best kings, if not THE best king, that England ever had"

Citation needed..

11/20/2008 10:06:23 PM

a mind far far away

First, King James was gay. Second, the KJV bible is based off of incorrect Greek translations of the NT, as well as the Masoretic Hebrew OT, which is also a very poor translation. More ancient Greek copies of the NT have been found since then, which agree more with other Greek copies, moreso than the Textus Receptus used in the KJV. The KJV, as far as English translations go, is a very, very poor translation. The NRSV, the Douey-Rheims, the Orthodox Study Bible (complete version), are probably the best English translations. The NRSV is an exact translation of the more ancient texts; the D-R is based off the Latin Vulgate of St. Jerome, and the Orthodox bible uses the LXX for the OT, and the Byzantine Majority Text for the NT.

11/20/2008 10:11:31 PM

apYrs

"First of all, King James was one of the best kings, if not THE best king, that England ever had."

wrong.

11/20/2008 10:13:13 PM

dg

@Efrain: Excuse me for being dumb, but what do those quotes show? Are they badly translated?

11/20/2008 10:17:59 PM

Tom S. Fox

Yeah, I would like to know the same as dg.

1/1/2009 9:05:13 AM

MarylandBear

James wasn't even one of the best English queens, much less one of the best Kings. (Capitalization usage intentional.)

10/28/2010 4:39:41 AM

Anon-e-moose

"I said,
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"First of all, King James was one of the best kings, if not THE best king, that England ever had. He had nothing to do with the actual translation work, other than granting his permission for the work to be done, and seeing to it that the translation committee had what they needed to get the job done."

It doesn't MATTER whether James was a Christian, a non-Christian, a good Christian, a bad Christian or an indifferent Christian. If you do the homework, I think you will find some interesting reading and a good testament to the moral values and manner of living of King James in his letter to his son in the book "Basilicon Doron".

Trying to character assassinate James is a red herring, a straw man argument, and totally irrelevant to the real issue. The point is that THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS A TRUE AND FAITHFUL TRANSLATION OF THE RIGHT MANUSCRIPTS AND IS THE BEST BIBLE THAT HAS EVER BEEN PRINTED (OR, IMHO, WILL EVER BE PRINTED). The tactics of the "Yea Hath God Said? Society" never change."

And what I'm about to quote here, cold fusion, you'd better sit down. Because you're not gonna like what you're about to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_James_I_of_England

'The personal relationships of James I of England included relationships with his male courtiers'

'James adopted a severe stance towards sodomy using English law. His book on kingship, Basilikón Doron, (Greek for "Royal Gift") lists sodomy among those “horrible crimes which ye are bound in conscience never to forgive”. He also singled out sodomy in a letter to Lord Burleigh giving directives that Judges were to interpret the law broadly and were not to issue any pardons, saying that "no more colour may be left to judges to work upon their wits in that point."

However, nearly two centuries later, Jeremy Bentham, in an unpublished manuscript, denounced James as a hypocrite after his crackdown: "[James I], if he be the author of that first article of the works which bear his name, and which indeed were owned by him, reckons this practise among the few offences which no Sovereign ever ought to pardon. This must needs seem rather extraordinary to those who have a notion that a pardon in this case is what he himself, had he been a subject, might have stood in need of."'

I think James I himself does a perfectly good job of annihilating his own credibility, never mind assassinating his own character. Certainly the basis of modern Fundamentalist Christianity.

That Bible you right-wing fundies drool over so much? The whole basis of your 'beliefs', 'faith' and dogma? It was written, collated & edited by someone who was, at best, bisexual.

Ergo, your KJV* - and right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity as a whole - is Gay. Q.E.D., bitch.


*- And now you know why it's referred to as the QJV: Queen James Version.

Have you read that forum? Tinfoil (ass)Hattery Central! As for this thread on Fluoridation:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=66850.0

They've clearly never seen "Dr. Strangelove: Or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb".

Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper, anyone?:

"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

General Jack D. Ripper: 'Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.'
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: 'Lord, Jack.'
JDR: 'You know when fluoridation first began?'
LM: 'I... no, no. I don't, Jack.'
JDR: 'Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.'

That film was a mirror reflecting Conspiracy Theory bullshit (thus why those on PP.com certainly havent, nay daren't see it). Decades before internet conspiracy theory tinfoil (ass)hattery. Ye gods, but Stanley Kubrick was a visionary film maker. In more ways than one.

10/28/2010 7:57:10 AM

TimeToTurn

It's a mediocre translation for its day that makes for a solid read regardless thanks to the fine use of the English language. I wouldn't go for it for my spiritual needs, though.

And wasn't one of the whole things with Protestantism printing the Bible in the language people can read? People can read KJV English, but most can't understand it nearly as easily as they could a superior modern translation.

First of all, King James was one of the best kings, if not THE best king, that England ever had

How about no, because England had plenty of better kings than King James VI and I. Though admittedly it's hard to bash King James I because of how many awful Kings England's had over the years. No doubt Prince Charles will join their ranks soon.

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