Quote# 42067

["Mathematical proof" of God's existance! Fasten your seatbelts!]

I believe that God created the heavens and the earth. If He really did, it should be possible to prove it mathematically. How would the theorem be written to express such an idea as the creation of the universe?

First we must define the universe in mathematical terms.

Define "c" as the percentage of the material universe created by God, "e" as the percentage of the universe which evolved by chance, "x" as the percentage of other material substance, and "1" as 100% of the whole universe containing everything that is.

We can define the material universe as c + e + x = 1

"God created the universe" can be expressed as, "c = 1".

Theorem:
Given c + e + x = 1
Then c = 1

I have calculated the values of "c" and "e" discovering that c = 1 and e = 0. Solving c + e + x = 1 for "x" results in x = 0. Substituting the values for each quantity, we have 1 + 0 + 0 = 1, a true statement. Thus c + e + x = 1 is equivalent to c = 1. Given the fact that there is a universe, mathematical calculations prove that it is the creation of God.

To prove the theorem, it is first necessary to prove that c = 1. The eye-witness testimony of God Himself concerning creation, and the proof He gave me in my own life that He is a living Creator, prove to me that he created the heavens and the earth. I thank God for this direct proof and that there is also mathematical proof that He is the Creator.

Jerry Duke, Personal web-site 46 Comments [6/30/2008 9:48:36 PM]
Fundie Index: 19

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Bumping this because this obviously got lost at the month change.

8/29/2008 10:43:52 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

I don't know much about math, but in order to prove c = 1 for an equasion, you'd have to use another equasion, wouldn't you? Otherwise, your magical math is irrelevant, and it just becomes the usual bullshit as written in your last paragraph.

8/31/2008 8:18:27 AM

F

Someone ought to hook Jerry up with that joon/kool/gooje dude.

8/31/2008 8:23:56 AM

entropius

uh, WHAT?

I've not seen math that divorced from reality in a long time, and I teach freshman physics.

8/31/2008 8:33:45 AM

Professor M

I'll call this one argumentum ad rectum.

Of the "I say so, therefore it's true" variety.

8/31/2008 8:37:12 AM

apYrs

merciful mother, is this guy even senient? Bible bable doesn't count as evidence

8/31/2008 8:43:29 AM

ID82

How did you get that c = 1 and e = 0? Oh wait that's right you just made all of this shit up.

8/31/2008 10:05:27 AM

aaa

8/31/2008 10:10:28 AM

God Is Real Unless Declared Integer

Ouch! This makes me hope that this guy is a Jehova's Witness which would at least mean that he must not vote.

8/31/2008 10:17:45 AM

Dr J Zoidberg (A Medical Corporation)

Mathematics does not work this way
in future i would suggest keeping your ill advised forays into the world of mathematics limited to the likes of:
1 + 1 = 2
and cease trying to use randomly arranged values to prove the existence of your deity of choice

good day sir.

8/31/2008 11:35:48 AM

Michael

Two equations with 3 unknowns?
You owe me a new Bullshit Meter.
C=+1 E=-700 X=+701 also satifies the equation, and the other falldown of your bullshit is that ALL of the numerical systems of the biblical days started with 1, and zero didn't exist except as a word.

8/31/2008 1:13:17 PM

What a bunch of gobbledygook.

8/31/2008 1:19:59 PM

Here's another equation:

b + f = BS

where b = bull and f = fodder.

8/31/2008 1:29:22 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Another F in 5th grade math.

8/31/2008 3:37:09 PM

G.Fieendish

Mathematical proof... Hah !
1) e in mathematical terms is a transfinite, irrational number with a infinite number of digits (currently e has been computed to 100 billion digits). Incedentally e is 2.71828..., not 0.
Applying the true value of e to the above equation gives c=1, e=2.718...
2) Ever heard of "Godel's Incompleteness Theorum", which dealt with the Class of All Classes paradox, which this argument is trying to recapulate & fails....
In short, F-

9/1/2008 7:50:00 AM

Cassandra

@Grigadil: No, no, no, completely wrong! This is a little bit higher mathematics, which is why the fundies don't understand it! What you probably meant to say was b(f) = BS, where f is fodder and b(x) is the Bull Function. This is true for all f which is part of the set "random ideas that this guy just made up".

9/1/2008 9:51:03 AM

Jon D

Just another example of religiot circular logic

God created the universe therefore my equation to prove God created the universe proves he did

oh happy day!

2/13/2009 12:09:37 PM

El Guapo

Hey...if you're allowed to rely on personal testimony in a proof, my home-boy told me that the Bible is 100% pure bullshit [his words]. That means that the truth content(t)of the bible is equal to 0, because the TOTAL content adds up to 1.
100% + 0 = 100%

Although, my guess is that Jerry Duke is also a big fan if the improper prior, and learned mathematics in homeschool.

2/13/2009 9:43:43 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

And a more economical translation - in English instead of Math is as follows.

"I think God made everything, and I got proof see. See theres stuff made by God, stuff that just happened to be there and other stuff too. What other stuff you ask? Who cares!

Now when you got the God stuff and the stuff that got there by a roll of the dice and that weird other stuff you got everything. You following me?

Now God made everything, I already told you that. And that means no stuff came about by chance and as for all that other weird stuff, forgeddaboutit already!

So theres stuff that God made, no stuff he didn't make and no weird stuff neither. See, God exists! Geddit?"

2/13/2009 10:07:52 PM

GigaGuess

You have no clue how mathematical proofs work, do you?

2/13/2009 11:35:14 PM

lumberjackninja

After reading that, I have an urge to let the infinite series of my foot converge with your ass.

Idiot.

2/14/2009 12:30:19 AM

szaleniec

The Year 7 algebra doesn't make your circular logic acceptable. It just makes its circularity more obvious.

2/14/2009 12:35:28 AM

c=1 proves that some god created the universe, and because some god created the universe, c=1.

Try obscuring your circular logic a little better next time.

10/9/2009 12:59:23 AM

Dagon

I just have spent a full weekend doing calculus homework and thanks to you i laughed so loud that i scared my roommate.

You fail Math so hard that the zombie of Arquimedes is going to kill you tonight!

10/17/2009 8:47:14 PM

Slayer

So you went through all of that just to end with an appeal to a subjective source? That defeats the entire purpose of having a mathematical "proof."

10/17/2009 9:04:41 PM

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