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[A little taster from an article of a magazine which calls itself pompously "Real Truth Magazine"]

Why is evolution cemented in the minds of many as fact, when it is nothing more than theory?

How did this occur?

Certain aspects of evolution may be confusing and difficult to understand. Do not be surprised! The rationale invented to support evolution is bewildering and complicated. It is tiresome and boring. Certain facts are conveniently left behind, and tedious scholarly language is used to stop most people from examining the subject in detail. Left frustrated, most assume evolution to be fact.

This series will demystify the subject. You will know if evolution is science fact or science fiction. Convoluted and illogical theories will be simplified in a way never before presented. While some sections are technical, the more detail given, the better you will be able to see through the theory’s “smoke and mirrors.” Clear and simple logic always destroys ill-conceived suppositions.

Once evolution is dismantled, you will be left with many questions—and serious implications.

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Bradford G. Schleifer, Real Truth Magazine 52 Comments [7/1/2008 12:58:36 PM]
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Bass X0

So "clear and simple logic" is that Goddidit. That the bible is the one and only truth because they say its the one and only truth. And that everything not in the bible is the work of satan.

7/1/2008 1:02:14 PM

wombat


"Why is evolution cemented in the minds of many as fact, when it is nothing more than theory?"

You keep using that word "theory". I do not think it means what you think it means.

7/1/2008 1:02:19 PM

Mister Spak

Why is creation cemented in the minds of many as fact, when it is nothing more than myth? Because their heads are filled with cement.

7/1/2008 1:03:00 PM

aaa

Damn retards.

7/1/2008 1:04:58 PM

Allegory for Jesus

"nothing more than theory?"

FAIL, dammit, FAIL!!!

I hereby damn you to an eternity in science hell!

7/1/2008 1:07:54 PM

oidhche

FYI: Gravity is also a theory. Air is also a theory. Your existence is also a theory. If you want facts, do maths. Everything else is just a theory.

7/1/2008 1:09:12 PM

Blayze Kohime

People can have wrong opinions like "Goddidit" theories, doesn't really make them a fundie unless they are trying to force it on someone else.

7/1/2008 1:12:14 PM

Illuminatalie

"tedious scholarly language is used to stop most people from examining the subject in detail."
Translation : I couldn't do that talkee or figger it out cause there too many big words. big words don't mean nuthin, they just think their so smrt.

7/1/2008 1:18:54 PM

stogoe

We'll have...implications? Dear Crom, that sounds horrible! Honey, didn't you have implications back in college? No? I could swear I heard you got implications from Bobby Leroux freshman year when you went to that toga party. That was before we were going out, though. Maybe I misheard.

7/1/2008 1:19:15 PM

Beeblebrox

Why is evolution cemented in the minds of many as fact, when it is nothing more than theory?

I'd have thought that someone who writes for a magazine would know the definitions of the words he/she uses. Your misuse of the word "theory"--implying that a theory is nothing more than a guess--tells me right away that I will find nothing informative or relevant in your article.

The rationale invented to support evolution is bewildering and complicated. It is tiresome and boring.

The same can be said for any given theology class. It's even more true for End Times Prophecy studies. The biggest difference is that I can earn a living (and possibly advance Humanity's understanding) with a degree in Evolutionary Biology.

Clear and simple logic always destroys ill-conceived suppositions.

Sadly this is not true in the real world. If it were true, Christianity would have dissolved a few centuries ago.

7/1/2008 1:24:46 PM

Argle Bargle

@Blayze Kohime

Mandatory creationist classes in schools count as forcing it on someone else.

7/1/2008 1:30:23 PM

Nirjuana

Gravity is also just a theory and actually it's far more inaccurate than evolution

7/1/2008 1:32:08 PM

Argle Bargle

Also, that article manages to repeat every single creationist myth from "cosmic evolution" to misunderstood thermodynamics.

7/1/2008 1:33:05 PM

Freboy

"Certain facts are conveniently left behind, and tedious scholarly language is used to stop most people from examining the subject in detail."

Only fundies think their stupidity is an argument.

7/1/2008 1:44:27 PM

BCD

These type of arguments are aimed solely at people who are scientifically uneducated. I guess, once again, it's the stupid and uneducated who are in a better position to explain the deeper workings of the universe to the rest of us.

7/1/2008 1:53:35 PM

Mortok

Bad Fundie! Bad! Back in the corner for you!

7/1/2008 2:05:56 PM

Me again

Hahahahaha

"You have but one task as you read: Review the evidence with an open mind."

This from an article entitled "Evolution Exposed: Deconstructing False Science".

Hahahahahaha

7/1/2008 2:13:13 PM

Grigadil

It is clever to be ignorant, and ethical to lead ignorant people deeper into ignorance. Anything deeper than "goddidit" is an affront to human decency.

This is because people with nothing upstairs wish to be arbitrary masters over others.

"goddidit".

OK, how did he do it?

7/1/2008 2:17:35 PM

David B.

Evolution is a fact, the theory bit is "by Natural Selection".

Doesn't bode well for the rest of the series.

7/1/2008 2:18:07 PM

Daken

Evolution is a theroy, much as gravity is a theory.

7/1/2008 2:19:58 PM

Prager

It all boils down to, "If I can't understand it, then it must be wrong."

7/1/2008 2:21:38 PM

mockeldritch

Summary of part 1:

Argument from incredulity ("I don't understand evolution")

Argument from authority ("Colin Patterson said evolution is woolly")

Argument from guilt-by-association (big list of logical fallacies)

Argument from misunderstood physics (The second law of thermodynamics means evolution is impossible)

therefore evolution is bad and wrong and should be stopped.


7/1/2008 2:34:59 PM

Horsefeathers

"Why is evolution cemented in the minds of many as fact, when it is nothing more than theory?"

You could have waited at least to the second sentence to shoot yourself in the foot.

"How did this occur?"

Evidence. Lots and lots of evidence.

"Certain aspects of evolution may be confusing and difficult to understand."

Yeah, like those being studied in laboratories around the world. The general concept and basic ideas aren't exactly brain benders. Small children would probably have no difficulty understanding evolution as an idea.

"Do not be surprised!"

I can't help but be surprised that you'd consider evolution to be "confusing and difficult to understand" since, well, it's not.

"The rationale invented to support evolution is bewildering and complicated."

Not if you understand the science. Look, pal, if you have no understanding of biology, genetics, microbiology or other fields directly related to evolution then yes, it'll be "bewildering and confusing." It's curable though. Read a fucking book. Start with the popular science section of your local bookstore or library. That's where you'll find the books that explain evolution without all that "bewildering and confusing" scientific data.

"It is tiresome and boring."

Ok, scratch the above suggestion. Apparently you can't be bothered to learn anything as it's much less exhausting to simply rant against it without understanding it.

"Certain facts are conveniently left behind, and tedious scholarly language is used to stop most people from examining the subject in detail."

If it's "bewildering and confusing," how do you know certain facts are "left behind"? And if it's written in "tedious scholarly language" how would you decipher it since it's obvious you don't have the education to do so?

"Left frustrated, most assume evolution to be fact."

Actually, I find it's the opposite. Those who can't understand it assume it's not true while those who do understand the theory, either intimately or in a general sense, accept it as true because, well, it is.

"This series will demystify the subject. You will know if evolution is science fact or science fiction."

Are you a qualified biologist with appropriate level degrees, research and teaching experience? Somehow I doubt it.

"Convoluted and illogical theories will be simplified in a way never before presented."

I'll bet. You'll simply make shit up as you go along since neither you nor your audience knows what the hell the original theory states anyway.

"While some sections are technical, the more detail given, the better you will be able to see through the theory’s “smoke and mirrors.”"

Didn't you just complain that evolutionary theory is too technical to understand?

"Clear and simple logic always destroys ill-conceived suppositions."

True enough.

"Once evolution is dismantled, you will be left with many questions—and serious implications."

Good luck. You nuts have been trying for 150 fucking years. You're tenacious, I'll give you that.

7/1/2008 2:37:34 PM

emau99

[Why is evolution cemented in the minds of many as fact, when it is nothing more than theory? How did this occur?] You seem to misunderstand the term “theory” as it applies to the scientific method.

[Certain aspects of evolution may be confusing and difficult to understand.] This is true. However, like anything, it can be understood with time and effort.

[The rationale invented to support evolution is bewildering and complicated.] Only if you don’t take the time and effort to understand it (see above).

[It is tiresome and boring.] Only if you don’t want to study it.

[Certain facts are conveniently left behind…] Such as?

[…tedious scholarly language is used to stop most people from examining the subject in detail.] Alternatively, it is a complicated subject that takes much effort to understand.

[Left frustrated, most assume evolution to be fact.] I’d like to know how you reached this conclusion.

[This series will demystify the subject. You will know if evolution is science fact or science fiction.] There's nothing mystical about it--unless you don't understand it.

[Convoluted and illogical theories will be simplified in a way never before presented.] I’m sure they will be.

[While some sections are technical, the more detail given, the better you will be able to see through the theory’s “smoke and mirrors.”] Why aren't you worried about the details of your own "theory"?

[Clear and simple logic always destroys ill-conceived suppositions.] Yes. Yes, it does.

[Once evolution is dismantled, you will be left with many questions…] Like “How does Bradford Schleifer tie his shoes in the morning?”

[..and serious implications.] Like “Schleifer is getting away with this crap!”

7/1/2008 2:38:46 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

"Clear and simple logic always destroys ill-conceived suppositions."

And yet, you just won't let yours die.

7/1/2008 2:47:54 PM
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