[Responding to a post about an atheist's kids being made fun of at school by fundie kids]
Atheism is like racism in that they are taught and not natural philosophies. We as Parents teach our children racism and atheism. A child is born ignorant of skin color and that there is a higher power. Both of these learned philosophies not only hurt a child mentally but retards them socially.
The reason I lump racism with Atheism is because they are both unnatural and learned processes of thought. Both go against what the majority of the world believes or follows. They also tend to cause the child to grow up with a deep resentment of their parents and society. Hopefully your children will become functional adults who search for the truth and eventually disregard what was erroneously taught to them.
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Hopefully -your- children will become functional adults who search for the truth and eventually disregard what was erroneously taught to them.
Besides, that's not really a correlation.
Umm, unless something's happened recently that I don't know about babies aren't born spouting scripture; they have to be indoctrinated and propagandized about your imaginary sky being, you witless dweeb
You fucking mental cripple! You just compared theism with racism as learned and unnatural, then you called it atheism! Learned belief in a "higher power" could not, under any circumstances, be called "atheism"!
"...Hopefully your children will become functional adults who search for the truth and eventually disregard what was erroneously taught to them."
The good thing is, that happens often - as evidenced by the testimonials at EX -christian.net.
You have to be taught racism and atheism, so they're bad. You have to be taught religion, but that's good.
{I look back fondly on my atheism classes at home and in school.)
"Atheism is like racism"
This is true, and it doesn't take much to make them indistinguishable from each other:
"Athe ism "
"Rac ism "
ZOMGeleventhousandonehundrenandeleven!!!!!! I can't tell which is which now!
Do you have any idea of what a bell curve is?
Look one up. It represents the distribution of intelligence among humanity. I'm guessing you're on the left side of the curve.
The majority of the world's people are sheep. What they believe is not a measure of truth or reality.
@Metatron:
bell end, more like...
Right. My fundamentalist atheist parents pumped me full of all sorts of unnatural, ridiculous beliefs. Not until I grew up and learned to think for myself did I become a Christian and realize how harmful my previous beliefs had been. Now I'm a functioning adult.
Now, just replace the word "atheist" with "Christian" and vice versa.
just fyi, children raised around only their own race tend to be prejudiced against people of other races because the 'weird' appearance scares them. it's learned in that a white baby brought up around black people will be more comfortable with them or vise versa, but not a taught behavior in that it results from the child's surroundings and instincts rather than being picked up from it's parents. and if you're wrong about the first, what are the odds you're right about the second?
"they are taught and not natural philosophies."
Soda cans are like televisions because they are not natural technology.
"A child is born ignorant of skin color and that there is a higher power."
Yes, everybody is born atheist. Oh wait, you actually believe children come pre-installed with God? OMFG.
"The reason I lump racism with Atheism is because they are both unnatural and learned processes of thought."
The only things that are natural to humans are eating, shitting, and fucking. If you hate man-made thinking so damn much, give me your clothes, computer, and house, and get the hell out of society.
I'm an atheist, and I don't have any resentment towards either of my parents, both of whom were atheists. And I was never indoctrinated, the subject of atheism and religion wasn't brought up until I was 8 or 9, and I brought it up, and the only thing my parents said was that they didn't believe in God.
PS: most atheists were raised in religious households and became atheists against the attempts of family and friends to prevent it. They were certainly never taught atheism.
Babies are born with no concept of the existence of god(s), weak atheism/agnosticism is the default, you have to learn any other position.
1) Atheism does not need to be capitalized unless it is at the beginning of a sentence.
2) Atheism is the very definition of a natural philosophy. Everyone is born an atheist. Otherwise, why do you have to brainwash children into your death cult.
3) Atheism has nothing to do with racism.
4)Who cares if most people aren't atheists? Two thousand years ago, most people weren't heliocentrists.
Now for some quote mining...
"A child is born ignorant of skin color and that there is a higher power. Both of these learned philosophies not only hurt a child mentally but retards them socially."
no no no
"A child is born ignorant... that there is a higher power. These learned philosophies not only hurt a child mentally but retards them socially."
Easy experiment:
Then, when trhe kid is grown up enough so that you can talk to him about complicated matters (maybe somewhere between 10 and 12) ask him what he knows about god (as you never mentiond the ord you will probably have to paraphrase it) and heaven and hell.
I am certain that he wouldn´t know what you mean and wouldn´t know anything about the idea of god or an afterlife.
Hmm, and believing in an untangable, all seeing, all knowing being isn't an unnatural thought at all. I see your point.
Close...but yet so far.
Get a child to tell you about gods without ever being exposed to the idea prior, and I will believe you. Otherwise, all you have shown is that children have emotional qualities that relate to god without any rational basis for doing so. Either that, or you are saying that your willingness to believe in a religion as soon as their exposed to it is indicative of natural belief in god, rather than guillibility.
Any way you slice it, you're pretty much wrong outside of the realm of your own bizarre theology.
Not a day goes by that I'm not thankful for my parents having taught me to think critically and analytically, and to be open minded and socially responsible. These are secular values, and I will never forget them.
"The reason I lump racism with Atheism is because they are both unnatural and learned processes of thought."
Um, hello! Christianity is a learned process of thought.
Those who do not know history ... etc etc.
A generation or two ago, racism was the majority (in North America, at least).
Oops.
To be honest:
"Hopefully your children will become functional adults who search for the truth and eventually disregard what was erroneously taught to them."
Slightly easier for non-religious children; they won't need to un-learn all that fantastic crap about an omnipresent psycho murderer.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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