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When I a freshman took a course in Geology in the fall of 1953, I was astonded that the order of evolution was in harmony with the Bible’s order of creation, at the time I thought this was reasonable.
About 7 years later (1960) In my research, I read “Enspiration vs Evolution” by Dr. W. B. Riley, (copywrite 1923). He pointed out that in Darwin’s Theory it is stated over several hundred times, “we may well assume.” In the Holy Scriptures it is stated over and over, “thus saith the Lord.” (Shall we live on assumptions, or by every word of God?)
Dr. Riley also taught the results of teaching evolution as a fact, and the results of teaching creation. He said, those that are taught evolution, in lieu of creation, would turn to Athesism, Communism,and Anarcy. And that has, and is happening.
God’s word, and His creation have lasted thousands of years,
and our children (as well as adults) are taught “In the beginning God” and the the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and he became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7)
Yes, “By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and the host of them by the breath of His mouth.” (Psalm 33:6)
A blessed result of teaching creation (God’s word) is given in Proverbs 16:6, “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.”

LetMarch, Free Republic 25 Comments [7/8/2008 8:14:36 PM]
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Lucilius

Yeah, let's always prefer blanket assertions of outlandish claims, with no actual evidence or logical justification, to careful inference drawn from massive research. That's how LetMarch got where he is today – smack in the middle of the Ninth Century.

7/8/2008 8:17:00 PM

Mr Blur

So, since 1953 he's learned precisely nothing. Nice going.

7/8/2008 8:28:30 PM

Joe

YAY! Let's play ignore the last 55 years game!

7/8/2008 8:37:47 PM

C_V


so, I have to fear your god in order to 'depart from evil'? I think your bible was written for those too stupid to tell good from evil. in fact, I think it works quite well. your god can't be evil because he is the antithesis of evil because he says so even though his actions, when attributed to anything else are deemed evil. idiot.

7/8/2008 8:41:20 PM

Moondog

"we may well assume"=as far as we know from the best information we have
"so saith the Lord"=someone we can't see or hear said so, so THERE!

7/8/2008 8:50:50 PM

nfp

"Enspiration" is not a word. I checked three sources.

7/8/2008 8:51:53 PM

john

I was astonded that the order of evolution was in harmony with the Bible’s order of creation, at the time I thought this was reasonable

Yeah. I'm astonded, too. God created the plants, then the sun, then the birds and fish, then mammals, worms and insects. That's exactly the way evolution says it happened! [/sarcasm]

7/8/2008 8:54:56 PM

aaa

Granny, you need a reality check.

7/8/2008 8:59:31 PM

anonymous_troy

And you have to assume, on your 'feelings' and 'convictions', that God actually exists.

I dunno.

For something based entirely on somebody who may not even exist, your religion is indeed 'certain'.

7/8/2008 9:01:36 PM

Horsefeathers

"When I a freshman took a course in Geology in the fall of 1953, I was astonded that the order of evolution was in harmony with the Bible’s order of creation, at the time I thought this was reasonable."

Which has what to do with geology?

"About 7 years later (1960) In my research, I read “Enspiration vs Evolution” by Dr. W. B. Riley, (copywrite 1923). He pointed out that in Darwin’s Theory it is stated over several hundred times, “we may well assume.” In the Holy Scriptures it is stated over and over, “thus saith the Lord.” (Shall we live on assumptions, or by every word of God?)"

Ok. Now show evidence your god exists, is as described in your Bible, that the Bible is his "word" and that he actually knows what the hell he's talking about.

"Dr. Riley also taught the results of teaching evolution as a fact, and the results of teaching creation. He said, those that are taught evolution, in lieu of creation, would turn to Athesism, Communism,and Anarcy."

And he based this on his extensive research that was conducted according to rigorous and exacting scientific standards, right? Yeah, thought not. This "Dr." wouldn't have gotten his diploma by way of an ad in the back of a magazine, would he?

"And that has, and is happening."

Really? Then why are most biological scientists theists, likely not communists and almost certainly not anarchists?

"God’s word, and His creation have lasted thousands of years,
and our children (as well as adults) are taught “In the beginning God” and the the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and he became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7)"


Now answer me as to why they should be taught that and not something supported by evidence. Hell, why should they be taught that and not some other superstition?

"Yes, “By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and the host of them by the breath of His mouth.” (Psalm 33:6)
A blessed result of teaching creation (God’s word) is given in Proverbs 16:6, “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.”"


Yeah, yeah. Quote your book all you want. If you can't show evidence you're correct then it's not going to do you a hell of a lot of good.

7/8/2008 9:02:42 PM



I can find no evidence that this book even exists, outside Free Republic.

7/8/2008 9:17:58 PM

Doctor Whom

So you're assuming that the Bible is the Word of God?

7/8/2008 9:20:32 PM

Gjervan

But if you thought evolution and Creation were not opposed to each other, then God SAITH "let there be Evolution".

7/8/2008 9:23:12 PM

pete

A falsehood, wrapped in assumption, embedded in bullshit.

BTW, why can fundies credit their all powerful God with Creation thousands of years ago but billions is impossible?

7/8/2008 9:28:59 PM

anonymoose

@612216

http://www.amazon.com/Inspiration-Evolution-D-W-Riley/dp/B0018KW66M/ref=sr_1_43?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215550896&sr=1-43

It appears that "Dr." W.B. Riley (Doctorate of Divinity, Professor of Make-Believe) was an instrumental figure in the Scopes trial.

7/8/2008 10:08:41 PM

David B.

Good science always states it's assumptions, which is why the bible doesn't.

7/8/2008 10:10:50 PM

Fanatic-Templar

Thus saith the Lord: LetMarch is an idiot.
Thus saith the Lord: Blessed be the Squirrel above all beasts.
Thus saith the Lord: I can't beat the first mission in StarCraft. I am such a loser.

What will you trust? Reason, or anything that reads 'thus saith the Lord'?

I can find no evidence that this book even exists, outside Free Republic.

That's probably because you made a search for “Enspiration vs Evolution” without correcting for fundie misspelling.

7/9/2008 12:06:31 AM

Allegory for Jesus

"Shall we live on assumptions, or by every word of God?"

The message of the crowned destruction fairy from beyond space and time beats what you puny mortals have to say every time!

" He said, those that are taught evolution, in lieu of creation, would turn to Athesism, Communism,and Anarcy."

Look at the bloody European countries, a-hole. It might coincide with atheism (sort of), but hardly the second two.

And, surprise surprise, you end by regurgitating Bible quotes. Incredibly fresh and unique...

7/9/2008 12:15:26 AM

Mister Spak

In all thet thar larnin yew done did, did yew larn enny spellin?

7/9/2008 1:20:32 AM

Cameron Darlirace

"I was astonded that the order of evolution was in harmony with the Bible’s order of creation"

Yes, because fish and whales came about at the same time.

"He said, those that are taught evolution, in lieu of creation, would turn to Athesism, Communism,and Anarcy"

So, since 90% of people are taught evolution as fact in schools, that would explain why 90% of people are atheist, communist, and anarchist.

7/9/2008 1:24:58 AM

Sheik yer Bouti

I don't have enough patience to translate this fucking assholes gibberings.

What the fuck is enspiration, or copywrite?

W.B. Riley was quite educated for his time. That means he was pig ignorant compared to today.

7/9/2008 3:15:01 AM

Generic Human Fleshbot

Wait... WAIT! How does somebody turn to both communism AND anarchy?

7/9/2008 3:31:00 AM

Pyroclasm

Shall we live on assumptions, or by every word of God?

I'd rather live on well evidenced claims than unsupported, bronze age myths, thank you.

7/9/2008 6:03:29 AM

apYrs

He using a book written in 1923 to support his case?!

FSM protect us from such stupidity.

And then refers happily to the indoctrination of children into the faith

7/9/2008 6:53:10 AM

Ash

I'm an "Athesist" now? Reminds me of the religious MP here who blathered about "Homoists".

"God’s word, and His creation have lasted thousands of years"
Fail. Argumentum ad antiquetatem. Logic, I has it.

7/9/2008 8:43:16 AM
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