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To illustrate the inadequacy of this example, I would ask you how many genetic mutations were involved in the evolution of this species from the previous one, and what are the corresponding phenotypes?

...In order to give a minimum amount of credibility to evolutionism, fossil evidence of transitional forms must be found at least in the tens of thousands, but preferably in the tens of millions.

I challenge you to provide just ten separate examples of transitional forms.

reasonis faith, Free Republic 27 Comments [7/8/2008 2:41:57 PM]
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Pedantic Twit

Wait ... You want a specific fossil representing each distinct phenotype change?

Are you retarded or something?

7/8/2008 2:46:40 PM


Sounds like somebody needs to understand what they are talking about.

Otherwise, it just comes across as so much word salad.


7/8/2008 2:49:34 PM


So now that plenty of transitional forms have turned up, the demand has become that we don't have the corpse of every individual from amoeba to human? Utter desperation.

Why don't you dig up your last 100 ancestors and show me their bodies? What, you can't find more than half a dozen? Well, by your own "reasoning," they obviously didn't exist.

Piece of lobotomized shit.

7/8/2008 2:50:16 PM

Anna Ghislaine

If we did you'd just ask to see the transitionals between those too.

Plus, all individuals are transitionals. We're transitionals between what went before and what will be.

7/8/2008 2:56:17 PM


Yes. Everything is a transitional. That's how it works.

7/8/2008 3:23:03 PM



Good call.

7/8/2008 3:27:19 PM


Bring in the evidence.

7/8/2008 3:47:03 PM


Most fossils are transitional forms. Some types are actually found in the millions. What more do you fucking want?

7/8/2008 3:49:03 PM

David B.

Yes, shame on us!

After all, religious types have managed to discover the very cross Christ died on at least five separate times! Not to mention enough relics of the apostles to construct 3 dozen complete skeletons!

How can science hope to be taken seriously when it can't even aspire to 100% evidence? Particularly when most religious claims come with more than twice that amount?

7/8/2008 3:55:57 PM


At one point, I thought that explaining scientific matters to the religious could help my own understanding, like when you explain math to someone else.

But this stuff can only make me stupid.

7/8/2008 4:00:35 PM


You, your father, your grandfather, your great grandfather, and back for ten generations.
You're still the same species, but there are some distinct genetic differences.
Reason is logic based on evidence. Exactly the opposite of the name you claim.

7/8/2008 4:19:06 PM

El Guapo

I challenge you to provide the mechanism by which god created the universe.

7/8/2008 4:33:51 PM


I can find more than 10 just between reptiles and mammals.
1) Paleothyris
2) Protoclepsydrops haplous
3) Clepsydrops
4) Archaeothyris
5) Varanops
6) Haptodus
7) Dimetrodon
8) Biarmosuchia
9) Procynosuchus
10) Dvinia
11) Thrinaxodon
12) Cynognathus
13) Diademodon
14) Probelesodon
15) Probainognathus
16) Exaeretodon

Link for those interested.

7/8/2008 4:56:22 PM

Allegory for Jesus

"In order to give a minimum amount of credibility to evolutionism, fossil evidence of transitional forms must be found at least in the tens of thousands, but preferably in the tens of millions."

We'll get to work on that excessive amount of evidence as soon as you provide comprehensive, scientific evidence on how every facet of the human body is undeniable proof of a perfect design (in that it is an ideal use of physical laws and cannot be improved upon in any fashion), as well as how all the creatures in existence are also indicative of that fact.

We'll wait.

7/8/2008 5:27:22 PM


"I challenge you to provide just ten separate examples of transitional forms."


Tiktaalik, Archaeopteryx, all of the ones listed here (which alone would suffice for your "challenge") and, of course, you yourself are a "transitional."

Happy now jackass?

7/8/2008 5:42:41 PM

Mr. Fahrenheit

How many mutations? More than any person can possibly count. There are roughly 100 mutations per human zygote, and DNA will mutate roughly 2 or 3 more times in the average life span. Assuming that every animal has about the same rate that's 300 mutations for each individual in each generation since evolution first began. You do the math.

7/8/2008 5:57:30 PM


You know that only a tiny handful of all creatures ever fossilize, and we're fortunate to have found this many transitional forms?

7/8/2008 6:10:54 PM

Mister Spak

"I challenge you to provide just ten separate examples of transitional forms."


We have the transitional forms. We win.

7/8/2008 6:16:57 PM


I see your ignorance of the fossil record, and raise you one exceptionally well-preserved Devonian tetrapod radiation.

7/8/2008 7:10:33 PM

Old Viking

Google. Transitional fossils. 397,000 hits.

7/8/2008 7:53:11 PM

captain jesus

every organism ever is transitional, you fuckng lose.

7/8/2008 9:09:36 PM


You fucking fail.

7/8/2008 11:15:11 PM


This isn't even a word salad... it's some kind of word garbage disposal.

7/8/2008 11:45:23 PM


It's been done over and over. Take a comparative anatomy
class and you can disbelieve the evidence firsthand!

7/9/2008 2:50:25 AM


How about:


Those are transitional forms that lead to modern hippos and pigs.

Or maybe:


Those are transitional forms leading up to modern Camels.

Or perhaps you'd like:

or Indomeryx
or Leptomeryx
or Gelocus

All of those are transitional forms that lead up to modern Ruminants.

Need I go on?

Oh, and reason is most certainly not faith, in contrast to your silly misspelled forum name.

7/9/2008 3:59:13 AM

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