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Has anybody ever observed gravity waves? Or observed gravitons? Yet, scientists all over BELIEVE they exist because they fit someone's mathematical model. Without any observation of these phenomena to PROVE their existence, would not anyone who believes these things exist be guilty of operating on FAITH?

The problem is not one of faith, everyone believes in something. The question really is what you are putting your faith in.

kribor, Slashdot 42 Comments [7/12/2008 3:37:09 PM]
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#584872
crazyroper

We observe the effects of a force that we call gravity. This force exists. The search for theoretical particles (gravitons) is the search to find out how this force works.

7/12/2008 11:39:11 PM
#584884
Mister Spak

You're right. Gravity is only a theory.

7/12/2008 11:59:54 PM
#585138
CalcSwamiS

Yeah, there's an element of faith here. But surely much less faith is needed to believe in gravitons than God. Come up with a mathematical formula for God, and then the question really does boil down to "what you are putting your faith in".

Edit: I'd also like to add that even if scientists have some faith that a certain hypothesis will turn out to be proven true, they still accept that they could be completely wrong. Religious faith doesn't operate this way. Religious people not only have faith that their religion is right, but that it certainly can never be wrong.

7/13/2008 4:54:39 AM
#585174
Pyroclasm

Here, learn something.

7/13/2008 6:13:18 AM
#585184
Darth Wang

So you have a working mathematical model of God that makes accurate predictions?

7/13/2008 6:26:21 AM
#585200
lm

Not only have I seen a gravitron, I've rode one. One of my favorite state fair rides, even if the inside always smells like sweaty teenagers.

7/13/2008 6:46:44 AM
#585232
Nutz

belief in something and faith are different things. Faith is blind belief, not only that, but belief in something you know will never have evidence.

7/13/2008 7:55:20 AM
#585307
Jay-Sus

You fail at elementary school science.

7/13/2008 10:15:55 AM
#585323
Nedraed

Roll on intelligent falling.

7/13/2008 10:43:32 AM
#585623
fmitchell

Having "faith" in gravitons doesn't mean that the discovery of gravitons will usher in a New Heaven and a New Earth, or that those who denied the existence of gravitons will spend an eternity in Hell without gravity.

Which is the distinction between scientific beliefs and religious beliefs.

7/13/2008 5:42:19 PM
#585756
Sasha

I'm putting my faith in fundies to constantly top their own efforts to be as ridiculous as humanly possible. They haven't failed me yet.

7/13/2008 7:25:58 PM
#585938
Feminazi

Yet, scientists all over BELIEVE they exist because they fit someone's mathematical model. Without any observation of these phenomena to PROVE their existence...
I'm sure you do the same with god and the bible.

7/13/2008 9:17:11 PM
#586160
Somebody

You can still test gravity.

7/14/2008 1:24:27 AM
#586325
Azza's

....... Gravity waves...

did you go to ANY school??

7/14/2008 6:31:04 AM
#1319617
v200

Why is gravity so evil?

8/7/2011 5:40:00 PM
#1319633
Professor M

Scientists associated with CERN suspect that they may now have evidence of the Higgs boson (a.k.a. the "gravity particle") -- they just need to analyze their data to figure it out.

Because that's how science works: you develop a model to explain the available data which predicts that, under certain conditions within a certain range, certain other data will result. You then try to recreate conditions under as much of the range in question as possible, and check for the expected results. If the expected results are not found, you go back to the drawing board and come up with a better model (or maybe just retire to the lecture circuit, because you've just made yourself eternally famous).

8/7/2011 6:06:40 PM
#1324590
Dr. Shrinker

Gravity is reliable. Prayer is not.

Any other questions?

8/24/2011 8:36:12 AM
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