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We continue to observe <u>the effects of</u> electrons, enough to believe to a high degree of certainly they exist. One cannot observe the beginning our our universe.&quot; [Emphasis added]

joelch2, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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I cannot think of one application based on the cornerstone of the existence of electrons.

I'm just sitting here, typing into my magic box, listening to the little people singing into the other magic box, and keeping cool by use of this third magic box that somehow creates wind.

Is there no end to what magic can do?

7/1/2007 8:56:40 AM



7/1/2007 9:40:36 AM


we can observe the effects of the beginning of the universe pretty well actually (i.e. the universe).

7/1/2007 10:28:51 AM


Exactly what does the first part of the sentence have to do with the second part?

7/1/2007 3:03:11 PM


@viva, I'm assuming it's in response to someone who pointed out that we can't see electrons when someone tried the "no one saw the big bang" argument.

7/1/2007 3:41:18 PM

Penzias & Wilson

"One cannot observe the beginning our our universe."

We need to talk.

7/27/2011 12:39:00 PM


This is a false-color picture of the Cosmic Microwave Background, showing the universe as it was when it was 1100 times younger than it is now. See all of the cute little superclusters?

Your Argument Is Invalid.

7/27/2011 1:24:09 PM

Can we observe the effects of the beginning of the universe? Maybe an effect like, I dunno, a universe?

7/27/2011 1:57:21 PM

Professor von SCIENCE!!!

Huh, by that logic then God does not exist because we can't observe. And so help me if you say we can see the effect God has had on people I will smack you and counter with other fictional characters that touched people's lives but still don't exist.

1/9/2013 6:44:17 PM

Quantum Mechanic

"One cannot observe the beginning our our universe."

Penzias & Wilson called, but they couldn't stop laughing long enough to say anything.

1/29/2013 9:28:14 AM


We can also observe the effects of the Big Bang.

However, we cannot observe the effects of God. This leads to the logical conclusion that God probably doesn't exist. While there is a possibility that a god used magic to cause the Big Bang, it is an absurd assumption to start with.

1/29/2013 3:34:29 PM


Dear joelch2, realize that you can't observe your birth and vanish in a poof of logic.

1/30/2013 3:15:17 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Penzias & Wilson called again but they still couldn't stop laughing.

4/16/2013 5:58:00 AM

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