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Almost all of Britain’s social problems are caused by a loss of religion, the Chief Rabbi told Anglican bishops last night.

Societies without religion disintegrated and people succumbed to depression, stress, eating disorders and alcohol and drug abuse, Sir Jonathan Sacks told 650 bishops and their spouses in Canterbury.

Jonathan Sacks, Times Online 38 Comments [7/30/2008 4:20:04 AM]
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That's very interesting Sigmund Fraud. Now can you tell me something that isn't complete bullshit?

7/30/2008 4:22:32 AM


Because Japan doesn't do anything right.

7/30/2008 4:23:18 AM


That's not going to work so well, Smith. What of Shintou and (depending on how you define "religion") Buddhism?

7/30/2008 4:26:42 AM

Allegory for Jesus

Did this bishop happen to look at the rest of Europe? Did he not realize that religion is dissolving, but the nations remain? Did he happen to look at the Middle East and the United States for what high religiosity can do for "social problems"?

Depression, stress, eating, drinking, and a side of marijuana are paltry in comparison...

7/30/2008 4:33:22 AM


Doesn't your religion have some sort of commandment about not lying?

7/30/2008 4:43:10 AM

Malkavian Jeff


Atleast there's Norway, Sweden, Japan, Russia.

None of them get kicked in the keenster.

7/30/2008 4:46:52 AM


Some people are the exact opposite of the Four Yorkshiremen. If it was in the past, it was better. It doesn't matter how much better things are now.

7/30/2008 4:52:00 AM


"Sir, you are drunk"
"Yes, but in the morning i will be sober and you will still be ugly"

I think the same can go for religion

7/30/2008 5:29:40 AM

Mr Blur

Sadly, over here we have our share of religious retards too.

7/30/2008 6:49:22 AM


I haven't been paying close attention to the news recently. Can somebody tell me how many pogroms we've had in Britain lately?

7/30/2008 8:30:03 AM


I think Monty Pythons "Life of Brian" more appropriate, and far more accurate.

7/30/2008 8:43:17 AM



From what I understand, Shintou has devolved into a set of rituals and festivals that everyone does because everyone does them. (This *is* Japan.) Nobody actually believes in Inari and Ameratsu and the rest.

7/30/2008 9:24:01 AM


As opposed to places like Iran or Saudi Arabia where everything is just wonderful?

7/30/2008 10:45:37 AM


@ Allegory for Jesus

He is the Chief Rabbi addressing Bishops, from a Jewish point of view of the country.
London has a problem with rising crime, teenagers are killing each other.

7/30/2008 11:45:00 AM


Your religion is dying.

7/30/2008 1:39:19 PM

Princess Rot

Have you forgotten the Dark Ages, Rabbi?

7/30/2008 3:59:05 PM


What about Japan and Sweden?

7/30/2008 4:04:30 PM


Riiiiiiiight, because it's not like the US doesn't have its share of social problems, despite being overly religious for a western country.

7/30/2008 6:03:13 PM


I believe that a loss of religion would alleviate Israel's "social problems". Ulster's as well. But hey, traditions of tribal warfare do not die all that easily.

7/30/2008 6:50:03 PM


I believe [Godwin] Germany in the 1930s was fairly religious.

7/30/2008 6:56:20 PM

Tomby Stone

Britain's social problems are caused by a loss of religion in much the same way that poor Austrian girl's social problems were caused by being let out of her father's cellar after 23 years.

7/30/2008 7:18:14 PM

David B.

"Almost all of Britain’s social problems are caused by a loss of religion, the Chief Rabbi told Anglican bishops last night."

Yes, we haven't lost it fast enough, hence we still have social problems.

7/30/2008 7:35:00 PM

Angelica Einstellsehn

Skyknight: You have to remember that those religions/philosophies are treated very differently from Western ones. They're a part of daily life, but just that - a part.

7/30/2008 7:36:17 PM


In other words, only the mentally or emotionally damaged have any use for religion.

7/30/2008 8:12:11 PM


Ancient Rome didn't disintegrate until AFTER it became a Christian Nation....

7/30/2008 8:42:04 PM

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