The slippery slope argument [i.e. Harry Potter, then Dungeons and Dragons, then sacrificing kidnapped infants to the Dark Lord] is ALWAYS valid... it ALWAYS comes about sooner or later because once one thing is determined to be acceptable, it's MUCH easier to get the next thing accepted as well.
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Mostly because they realize that the last change DIDN'T lead to the downfall of civilization as the traditionalists claimed, and therefore the next thing probably won't either. That's not a slippery slope. That's a steady climb out primitive superstition. "Things have always been like that" is NOT a good enough reason for things to stay like that.
Also, Harry Potter came AFTER D&D, and the sacrifices came after neither.
And that's why the world has already ended. First we sacrificed all the children, then there were fires, mayhem and panic in streets of every town everywhere, and then the while world just plain blew up.
Perfectly valid.
Even though the slippery slope argument is frequently used, it is never valid. More of a tired joke.
No, it doesn't make it easier for a healthy intellect to accept a lie, no matter how forcefully the lie is pushed.
Definitely the first time I've seen someone try to justify the use of slippery slope fallacies using a slippery slope fallacy.
It's like reading a dictionary where all the entries are:
Okay, so what you're saying is that if we allow Christians to outlaw gay marriage, pretty soon they'll be stoning homosexuals to death in the streets. And you're also saying that if we allow voluntary prayer in schools it will become mandatory. Wait, I get it--you're saying that if we outlaw second-trimester abortions, a little ways down the road contraception will be illegal.
Thanks for clearing that up for us.
Actually, Harry Potter was almost sacrificed as a child by Tom Riddle, a.k.a. the Dark Lord. In the end, Harry was raised around friends who loved him, and had a mentor [homosexual, even] who helped train him to win against the evil forces that surrounded him and those he cared for.
So, screw you and your hatred of one of my fandoms!
Damn, almost 30 years later and the fundies are still raggin' on D&D. Unbelievable.
it ALWAYS comes about sooner or later because once one thing is determined to be acceptable, it's MUCH easier to get the next thing accepted as well
Evidently the concept of diminishing returns is lost on this one.
But if you start by banning Harry Potter , next you'll have to ban the Worst Witch series and Meg and Mog . Soon you'll have to ban all books that mention witchcraft, then you'll have to ban the bible, which mentions witchcraft several times. But if you do that, you'll have to ban the Christian Church from reading from the bible, then Christianity itself so that people don't read their bibles at home. But that won't stop people remembering bits of the bible, perhaps even bits that mention witchcraft, so you'll have to ban remembering. So really you are advocating the forced lobotomy of the entire population!
And "slippery slope" arguments are ALWAYS valid, remember?
Going from Harry Potter and D&D to kidnapping babies and sacrificing them to Satan?
Thats not a slippery slope, thats more like a bottomless pit.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Dungeons and Dragons been around for much longer than Harry Potter?
Harry Potter is a series of books about the war between good and evil, with a very Christian foundation underneath. It might actually be used to introduce kids to Christianity, if these people didn't get hung up on the witch stuff.
I'd say it's killing nomads in Afganistan, then killing civil servants in Irak, then sacrificing abortion doctors to the Dark Lord
"The slippery slope argument [i.e. Harry Potter, then Dungeons and Dragons, then sacrificing kidnapped infants to the Dark Lord] is ALWAYS valid... it ALWAYS comes about sooner or later"
PROTIP: Like Harry Potter and D&D, Chick Tracts are FICTION. Only some can't tell the difference. For example: fundies who believe the bible is the literal word of God.
Logical fallacies are a dangerous thing!
First, you start off with something small, like an appeal to authority or "no true Scotsman."
Then, its bigger ones, like an argumentum ad hominem, or begging the question.
That's not far away from post hoc ergo propter hoc or argumentum ad hitlerum.
And after that, you're well on your way to hosting a show on Fox News!
Avoid logical fallacies at all costs; there's no telling where they'll lead!
sacrificing kidnapped infants? Really?
Someone needs to tell these folks that infant and virgin sacrifice in the name of the 'dark lord' or evil or whatever DOESN'T HAPPEN!! It may have happened once or twice in the past but come on!
Besides, God asked Abraham to sacrific his only son Isaac. Looks like GOD would push someone to sacrifice children. Watch your kids around churches everyone!
You fail logic and reality forever.
Also, I've been tempted to go onto one of these boards and post a link to the In Nomine website, in hopes that one of them would actually buy the rulebook. The explosion that would subsequently occur would be spectacular. If they think D&D is "evil and satanic"......
The slippery slope always goes downhill, thats why it's maybe logical but a pesimistic approach.
Valid only if it's right, there is nothing to suggest that Harry Potter books will lead to child sacrifice. Nothing.
Even for slippery slope arguments, that one's a stretch.
That's a little like saying "first you get your feet wet, then you learn to dog paddle, then you're competing with Michael Phelps!"
The slippery slope argument is ALWAYS valid...
Indeed. I mean one day, a friend of a friend of a friend's hairdresser was reading Genesis 22, when BOOM! She started sacrificing her children.
Slippery slope. Still always valid?
So, heterosexual marriage is legal and recognized in all 50 states. Oh no, that means they can legalize plural marriages! Then they will legalize close relatives marrying! Then they will recognize marriages between people and animals! We must stop this at once: BAN HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE!
Remember, the slippery slope argument is ALWAYS valid.
Have you been reading Jack Chick lately? Because I'm pretty sure he's argued that both Harry Potter and Dungeons and Dragons are a gateway into Satanism. Mind you, Jack Chick probably thinks that doing anything other than reading the King James Bible and blubbering to Jesus on your hands and knees is a gateway to Satanism.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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