"Santa Claus, Zeus, the FlyingSpaghettii monster, etc....You KNOW that these are made up, after the Bible was even written! "
IF someone thinks Zeus came AFTER the bible I think they've been watching too The View a little to often.
8/29/2008 4:03:53 PM
Yeah, and puddles are suited to hold water.
8/29/2008 4:20:15 PM
8/29/2008 4:38:41 PM
a unicellular organism spontaneously came out of nowhere? Explain this Strwaman.
Life did not start with already formed unicellular organisms. How about you read a book other than the bible some time?
8/29/2008 4:39:42 PM
Allegory for Jesus
"How earth is well suited to allow life, how well the human body works"
Deserts and hurricanes say that you are full of sh#t. Cancer and heart disease concur.
"Why is there so much war, diseases, etc.... In the world? That is because we are engulfed in sin."
Funny that your God does nothing to prevent the sinning, the side effects, or our proclivity towards the sin itself then. Considering that he is all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving, and made it so that we would sin and set it up so that sin has such devastating consequences in the first place. Honestly, God is the equivalent of a kid he sets a toy car on a steep hill and demands that head directly to the top, under penalty of falling into a polluted river.
"Explain this abiogenesis"
Cells are made out of proteins. Proteins are large molecules made of a variety of smaller molecules. So, abiogenesis is when molecules form a protein in the right environment, and a variety of proteins interact and make a primitive form of a cell.
Again, not proven beyond a doubt, and also not necessary as an explanation, since "goddidit" is effectively a non-explanation anyway.
8/29/2008 4:47:45 PM
Atheists fail to see intelligent design in the universe because there isn't any. The human body is full of flaws. these are easily explained by evolution, but for them to be designed means the designer was a retard (human birth canal, windpipe and esophagus, etc.).
Why is it creationists/ID supporters fail to see the mountains of data supporting evolution? And why do they continuously mix up scientific displines when arguing against evolution? (planetary formation =/= abiogenesis =/= evolution)
8/29/2008 4:50:55 PM
And as for the "documented" evidence of the healed amputee, see this sympathetic and gentle rebuttal from an actual physician:
The wishful thinking of a deluded woman who, after twenty years since the traumatic amputation, still doesn't have her leg back is hardly "documented" proof of a healed amputee.
8/29/2008 4:53:13 PM
ditto on the Zeus comment.
Healed amputee: are you saying you lost a limb and it grew back? I don't believe that. Did you have a successful re-attachment? An amputated part sewn back on? I'd believe that as medical science can do these things.
I have proof the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe because I saw the video on youtube.
Did you know that Christianity does not have one single original idea? See: Mithras, Isis, etc. Did you know that us pagans had the Christian holidays way before you guys decided to use them? Not only that Christians are now thinking Mayan prophecy somehow is their idea. War and disease? Christians are guilty for some of the most heinous acts in history. Why do you guys keep asking the same questions because you'll keep getting the same answers.
8/29/2008 5:01:02 PM
"Atheists: Why do you fail to see intelligent design?"
Because it's bollocks and the idea is peddled by uninteligent nutjobs?
8/29/2008 5:22:52 PM
"How earth is well suited to allow life"
Fucking arrogance. Life evolved to suit Earth, not the other way around. WE evolved to suit our environment, and once said environment changes, we evolve or die. No God involved.
8/29/2008 5:30:46 PM
The stupid! IT BUUUUUURNS!
8/29/2008 5:33:27 PM
Smells Like a Monkey
If intelligent design is in fact the answer, the designer is a fucking idiot.
8/29/2008 5:42:07 PM
8/29/2008 5:42:34 PM
because puddle logic is an amazing argument against the argument from design.
Plus we only have such a great life because we evolved to live with this world and the other life on it, and we wouldn't be here arguing about this if we hadn't already.
"Explain this abiogenesis"
Dammit, Kalen, I'm an amateur believer in evolutionary theory, not a biologist! Sadly, abiogenesis is where my knowledge craps out. I'm sure you could find SOMEWHERE on this huge fucking Internet that would know, though..
8/29/2008 5:52:01 PM
"Atheists: Why do you fail to see intelligent design? I just don't understand how atheists don't see intelligent design.."
Because I see no "design" in anything and those things that people such as yourself point to and claim is "designed" doesn't say much for the abilities of your designer.
"How earth is well suited to allow life,"
"This hole is so well suited to me it must have been made just for me!" says the puddle.
Life is suited to its environment, not the other way around.
"how well the human body works,"
Are you that unaware of just how many things can go wrong with the human body? Go to your nearest medical school and ask to see their library. To give you just a little light reading check out the section on genetic abnormalities alone.
"Atheists will always say: well whats the difference between believing in Santa Claus, Zeus, the FlyingSpaghettii monster, etc....You KNOW that these are made up, after the Bible was even written!"
And? Your Babble was written long after the ancient Egyptian, Greek, Norse and Chinese pantheons. What's your point?
"Atheists also say: Why is there so much war, diseases, etc.... In the world? That is because we are engulfed in sin. . I'm not trying to force my beliefs on anyone, Im just want your opinion."
Define, quantify and show evidence "sin" exists outside of being a catchall term in theology for "bad things". Next show that "sin" has any effect at all on human existence.
Supply real data, please, not half-assed theological conjecture and outright bullshit.
"Another question: Where did we come from?"
I came from my mother. Why, where did you come from?
"There was just like a sea of water or something and out of nowhere, a unicellular organism spontaneously came out of nowhere? Explain this abiogenesis"
Take a few semesters of organic and biochemistry.
8/29/2008 6:34:25 PM
we do see it but we see it as it's been created naturally over great periods of time and not spontaneously combusted by some guy up in space!
8/29/2008 6:46:52 PM
I suppose that if we point out examples of unintelligent design, you'll just say that they're the result of sin.
Also, you know that Jesus was made up well after the Rig-Veda was written.
8/29/2008 7:06:17 PM
"Atheists will always say: well whats the difference between believing in Santa Claus, Zeus, the FlyingSpaghettii monster, etc....You KNOW that these are made up, after the Bible was even written! "
We also know that the bible was made up, so what's the difference between Santa Claus, Zues, Flying Spaghetti Monster etc.?
8/29/2008 7:29:46 PM
Please send more information about being engulfed in sin.
8/29/2008 7:44:47 PM
Zeus and the Greek Pantheon predate your Bible.
8/29/2008 7:52:16 PM
What an IDIOT! Look up Hesiod's Works and Days if you are interested in knowing why she is wrong on the Zeus thing.
As far as the other stuff, this girl needs an education BAD!
8/29/2008 8:09:50 PM
how well the human body works
Put a chainsaw to your neck and fire it up and check how well your body works!
8/29/2008 8:11:33 PM
Atheists will always say: well whats the difference between believing in Santa Claus, Zeus, the FlyingSpaghettii monster, etc....You KNOW that these are made up, after the Bible was even written
You do realize that Zeus predates you bible by nearly 1000 year don't you? Fucking homeschooler.....
8/29/2008 8:18:07 PM
How in the hell was Zeus made up after the Bible?
8/29/2008 10:40:02 PM
I fail to see intelligent design because it isn't there.
If you were peddling moronic design I might believe you.
8/31/2008 12:34:55 AM