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Atheists of R&S? When it comes to dismissing God, is it merely a question as to which paradigm you adhere to??
So atheists (I'm talking about the somewhat educated ones) Is a "scientistic" paradigm preferable to a supernatural one... it seems that given the progress of science (which does indeed deserve credit) one cannot be blamed for falling for the trap of "scientism" can they???

How can you justify such adherence to a paradigm when both supernaturalism and naturalism are conjectural when it comes to questions about cosmological origins?

Is not atheism merely an hypothesis at best, but at worst merely dismissive ignorance founded on lack of education and cheap jack opportunistic rebellion???

Your thoughts??

Methuselah (Turned Theist), Yahoo Answers 35 Comments [8/30/2008 1:48:30 AM]
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Android R

I stopped reading at 'scientistic'

First Post?

8/30/2008 1:52:15 AM

Bri

Me too Android R
scientistic... seriously??

8/30/2008 1:55:41 AM

Jay-Sus

I stopped reading after scientism.

8/30/2008 1:59:49 AM

Rat of Steel

Mmmm. Word salad.

Oh, waiter...I'll have some blue cheese dressing on this, please.

8/30/2008 2:21:46 AM

Horsefeathers

"Atheists of R&S? When it comes to dismissing God, is it merely a question as to which paradigm you adhere to??
So atheists (I'm talking about the somewhat educated ones) Is a "scientistic" paradigm preferable to a supernatural one... it seems that given the progress of science (which does indeed deserve credit) one cannot be blamed for falling for the trap of "scientism" can they???"


"Scientism"? Is that like "evolutionism" and all the other bullshit you people tack "ism" onto in order to demonize it?

To answer the question, yes, science is a damned sight better than superstitious bullshit.

"How can you justify such adherence to a paradigm when both supernaturalism and naturalism are conjectural when it comes to questions about cosmological origins?"

Science has a better track record. It also has quite a bit more evidence for its "conjecture".

"Is not atheism merely an hypothesis at best, but at worst merely dismissive ignorance founded on lack of education and cheap jack opportunistic rebellion???"

It's not a hypothesis as we're not proposing anything; you are.

"Your thoughts??"

I think you should rethink your post and try again.

8/30/2008 2:25:17 AM

anonymous_troy

I'm thinking this is word salad and you should be more direct if you actually have a point at the bottom of that.

8/30/2008 2:27:06 AM

Allegory for Jesus

LOLWUT? We don't adhere to a "scientistic" paradigm. We refuse to adhere to any given religious paradigm. That is it. Why you may ask? You can tell me by explaining why you dismiss Thor, Odin, the FSM, Vishnu, Amaterasu, et. al.

Origins are not the issue here, because, like you try to say, it is speculative. It just happens that speculating via positing a deity is just a tad ridiculous, especially when you start tacking dogma onto it.

As for your second to last sentence: it is not a hypothesis, it is a refusal to accept other hypotheses that have no basis. As for dismissive ignorance, answer my question regarding your own dismissal of every other religion and we'll talk about who is rebelling against what.

8/30/2008 2:34:50 AM

werewolf

No. You're a moron.

I'd return the favor and ask for your thoughts on this but you haven't any coherent ones.

8/30/2008 2:48:54 AM

Frank

dang, my IQ drops by each word read by you *drool*

8/30/2008 2:49:41 AM

C_V


I've yet to meet anyone who worships science. science describes things as they are, not what some fantasy-prone idiot wishes things to be.

8/30/2008 3:07:12 AM



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SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET THE HELL OF MY INTERNETS

8/30/2008 3:19:49 AM



"I've yet to meet anyone who worships science."

I have. It's as bad or worse than Christianity.

8/30/2008 3:21:27 AM

protowhalepig

word salad with cunt dressing

8/30/2008 3:38:10 AM



Atheism would be the null hypothesis to the hypothesis that there is a God. As such, one must disprove the null hypothesis, or rather, provide evidence for God. Since we cannot reject the null hypothesis, we must accept it.

8/30/2008 4:31:55 AM

crazyroper

Supernatural is an incoherent concept. Theism is a hypothesis at best.

8/30/2008 4:35:01 AM

Goosey

Is it more likely that there is no god than that there is a god?

Hard to say. Maybe.

Is it more likely that there is no god than that there is your specific god?

Oh, hell, yes.

Whether or not atheism is a justifiable alternative to all the other possibilities put together, it's definitely a more than justifiable alternative to any one of the other possibilities individually.

8/30/2008 6:17:00 AM

The Outsider

I fucking hate solipsism.

8/30/2008 6:58:51 AM

ArmandT

Ok, maybe I'm just drunk, but what the hell is he saying?

Oh, and maybe atheism is just a hypothesis, but so is theism. Adhering to an impossible, logic-defying world view is moronic.

8/30/2008 7:36:41 AM

solomongrundy

My thought is you're an idiot.

8/30/2008 10:23:20 AM

Katsuro

Am I the only one who has no diea wtf this idot is saying?

IT's at least partially because I couldn't keep reading it for long enough.

8/30/2008 10:39:45 AM

aaa

You're full of shit.

8/30/2008 11:59:32 AM

afacelessatheist

"Your thoughts??"

I'm thinking that you thought that saying words that sound big and intelligent would intimidate but you were too damn stupid to know which words to use so you made up your own. Am I close?

8/30/2008 2:43:29 PM

Eric

I bet I know more about your religion than you Methuselah.

8/30/2008 2:59:30 PM

Giveitaday

Is a "scientistic" paradigm preferable to a supernatural one... it seems that given the progress of science (which does indeed deserve credit) one cannot be blamed for falling for the trap of "scientism" can they???

Science isn't an "ism", it's science, not religion. Repeating it over and over again won't make it so.

Is not atheism merely an hypothesis at best

Atheism is not a worldview, a scientific theory, a philosophy, or paradigm. Atheism is a statement of a lack of belief in a god or gods. Period. That's all, nothing more.

but at worst merely dismissive ignorance founded on lack of education and cheap jack opportunistic rebellion???

How can a lack of indoctrination equal a lack of education? To your second point, yes sometimes atheism can be an act of rebellion, but it what way can it be considered "opportunistic"?

8/30/2008 6:21:50 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

No, its different from person to person.. my atheism to me means that I couldnt give a rats ass wether your evil jeebus exists or not..I do not consider him worthy of my adoration and worship. Every god and goddess I have ever read about is not worthy of my worship. This basically means that, as far as Im concerned, your Jesus can go fuck himself.

8/30/2008 7:47:28 PM
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