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I'm not afraid, I don't hate, and I don't mock homosexuals. But that doesn't mean that I agree with their life style.

How long will people continue to equate disagreement with hate and fear?

If (and that's one big IF) - but if you believe in evolution, then you can NOT believe in homosexuality as a valid lifestyle, unless you think that this mess (called "life") is finally cleaning itself up after all these millennia.

Let me explain: If life originated because of evolution, it was an accident - matter, energy, space and time working in random chaos.

When *I* have an accident - say I spill my milk all over the table, I get up, I go into the kitchen, I grab some towels, I come back, and I clean up the accidental spill.

If life truly IS an accident, maybe homosexuality is nature's way of wiping up the mistake to finally, once and for all, get rid of human life!

But if you DO believe in evolution, then you must understand that homosexuality is counter productive to the propagation of the species, so it is in violation of the evolutionary process.

Personally, I do NOT believe in evolution. I believe that God designed us, and just as you don't go putting peanut butter in the carburetor of your car because it violates the operating specs that Ford Motor Company (or Chrysler, or who ever) wrote to keep the vehicle running properly, likewise, homosexuality is in violation of the operating specs of the human species.

And please, PLEASE don't point to what animals do - if you've already lowered yourself to the level of an animal, I pity you! I'm more than mere animal. I have a soul. Did you lose yours?

So, let's get this controversy over once and for all, and just STOP! (I promise I won't put peanut butter in the carburetor of my car because it violates the design specs of the manufacturer. But you, too, must promise to not violate the design specs of OUR manufacturer!)

no1home2day, Y answers 48 Comments [8/29/2008 4:53:14 PM]
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aaa

We have methods to bypass that.

8/29/2008 4:59:26 PM

GreenEyedLilo

I "must", must I?

I don't have to do a damn thing but die and pay taxes, asshole.

As for the animal thing, I'd rather have more in common with a penguin, a koala, or a bonobo than a creep like you.

8/29/2008 5:03:15 PM

Paschal Wagner

Biology=/=morals.

8/29/2008 5:03:40 PM

Lulzmonger

It's not biology's job to make up petty moral rules.

8/29/2008 5:05:53 PM

Fek'lhr

But if you DO believe in evolution, then you must understand that homosexuality is counter productive to the propagation of the species, so it is in violation of the evolutionary process.

I have been having this same discussion on Topix. It seems like no matter how many times you say it, the dummies don't realize that unless homosexuals become "heterocidal maniacs" and halt all forms of heterosexual reproduction (natural and artificial) world-wide, then they are not "in violation" of the "evolutionary process".

8/29/2008 5:13:37 PM

IceKeyHunter

A lot of good things came out of accidents.

Whoops, I just invented velcro. Better throw that out, nobody wants to use a product discovered accidentally.

8/29/2008 5:13:38 PM

C_V


your carbeurator is none of my damned business and others' sexuality is none of yours, douchewad.

8/29/2008 5:20:55 PM

Arts_Myth

I'm more than mere animal. I have a soul. Did you lose yours?

So. Can you show us this soul of yours? No? It's invisible? Aw. Well if our souls are invisible and undetectable, maybe "mere" animals have them too. Or, just going out on a limb here, maybe there's no such thing at all?

And if evolution was solely about continuing the species, sexual reproduction should never have developed. With sex, you (most often) need two genders, while asexual reproduction (most often) requires none. Why bother trying to find a mate when you could just engage in fission or budding or some other such asexual method? Why would God create a whole range of creatures that can reproduce without sex, then create others that require sex, then create mankind and practically make sex completely forbidden?

Even the whole "because Adam was lonely" story doesn't explain it; why not create Eve and then, because she was lonely, create Ada, both perfectly capable of parthenogenesis. Mind you, needing a little help, Whiptail Lizard style, would make it quite interesting.

8/29/2008 5:24:18 PM

struby

"When *I* have an accident - say I spill my milk all over the table, I get up, I go into the kitchen, I grab some towels, I come back, and I clean up the accidental spill. "

Good for you. 'Nature' being a non-sentient entity, does not 'clean up' anything. Your example sucks.

"But if you DO believe in evolution, then you must understand that homosexuality is counter productive to the propagation of the species, so it is in violation of the evolutionary process."

Ugh. Evolution is how it works, it DOES NOT HAVE ANY GOALS.

8/29/2008 5:28:25 PM

werewolf

Pre-frontal lobotomy is the cure.

8/29/2008 5:28:55 PM

Allegory for Jesus

"How long will people continue to equate disagreement with hate and fear? "

Ahahahahahahahaha...hooo...that's some nice irony.

Also, nice semantic spin on "accident", and homosexuality is only counter-productive if EVERYONE is homosexual. Otherwise, it is a nice way to slow population growth while still having living, functioning human beings to lend support to the greater commmunity.

Also, comparing people to machines, while saying that we are better than animals for no apparent reason by strawmanning an explanation for why homosexuality is natural= FAIL.

8/29/2008 5:32:13 PM

Ash

False dichotomy much?

8/29/2008 5:34:58 PM

Øyvind

And please, PLEASE don't point to what animals do - if you've already lowered yourself to the level of an animal, I pity you! I'm more than mere animal. I have a soul. Did you lose yours?

Yes, they are this stupid.

Idiot: Teh ghey is not natural!1
Me: [Provides evidence otherwise]
Idiot: omg y u bring up homos in nature?! What's that got to do with anything? Just that it's natural doesn't mean that it's right etc. etc. etc.

8/29/2008 5:36:22 PM

anonymous_troy

"But if you DO believe in evolution, then you must understand that homosexuality"

Not sure where you're going here, but evolution and homosexuality are fairly unrelated.

"is counter productive to the propagation of the species, so it is in violation of the evolutionary process."

No, there's not really such a thing as a violation of evolution. Arguably, given the number of children who need to be adopted, homosexuality is advantageous to the current setup of the human race.

"you don't go putting peanut butter in the carburetor of your car because it violates the operating specs"

Yeah, but this is more like having 6.5 billion cars, and only buying 10 billion to replace them when they stop running instead of 10.5 billion or someshit.

It's not harmful to individuals, it's rather a good idea given the current distribution of children, and it's not even close to hurting the human race because we are actually doing JUST FINE on population.

"PLEASE don't point to what animals do"

We've only ever made the gay animal argument in response to your idiotic idea that animals aren't gay. Argument from nature is invalid.

"I'm more than mere animal. I have a soul. Did you lose yours?"

I dunno. What's it look like?

8/29/2008 5:48:42 PM

Øyvind

A stand-up comedian brought this up for me...

why don't anyone ever talk about a straight "lifestyle"?

Fucking fundie Newspeak.

8/29/2008 5:51:02 PM



But you, too, must promise to not violate the design specs of OUR manufacturer!

Hon, if "our manufacturer" thought anal sex went against some "design," then prostate stimulation wouldn't be so gosh-darn pleasurable.

8/29/2008 6:19:39 PM

Amanda

We are not cars. We are people, and are part of the animal kingdom. We are all different, with different preferences, and the preferences of other people are none of your business.

8/29/2008 6:30:26 PM

Mister Spak

"How long will people continue to equate disagreement with hate and fear? "

As long as people who hate and fear call it disagreement.

8/29/2008 7:12:50 PM

Mister Spak

" (I promise I won't put peanut butter in the carburetor of my car because it violates the design specs of the manufacturer. But you, too, must promise to not violate the design specs of OUR manufacturer!) "

I can go to Ford and get a manual. Can you go to the giant man with a long white beard who lives on clouds and get one?

"And please, PLEASE don't point to what animals do - if you've already lowered yourself to the level of an animal, I pity you!"

Male and female animals have sex, so there must be some problem with humans doing it.


8/29/2008 7:14:20 PM

tracer

"and just as you don't go putting peanut butter in the carburetor of your car because it violates the operating specs that Ford Motor Company (or Chrysler, or who ever) wrote to keep the vehicle running properly, likewise, homosexuality is in violation of the operating specs of the human species."


I can put Nitro-laced fuel in a car's gas tank, which ALSO violates the operating specs of the Ford or Chrysler motor company.

But guess what? Not only does it work, it makes the engine MORE powerful!

8/29/2008 7:26:23 PM

Mister Spak

Anonymouse troy:

But if you DO believe in evolution, then you must understand that homosexuality"

Not sure where you're going here, but evolution and homosexuality are fairly unrelated.

He may be saying that homosexuals don't reproduce and therefore are removed from the gene pool. Evolution will eliminate them from the population. Of course he doesn't seem to have a coherent understanding of the concept.


8/29/2008 7:28:12 PM

GigaGuess

I'm not afraid, I don't hate, and I don't mock homosexuals. But that doesn't mean that I agree with their life style.
And I have no problem with you disagreeing with our lifestyle. Leave us alone, and you won't have to worry about it.

How long will people continue to equate disagreement with hate and fear?
For as long as you use your disagreement to deny us rights.

If (and that's one big IF) - but if you believe in evolution, then you can NOT believe in homosexuality as a valid lifestyle, unless you think that this mess (called "life") is finally cleaning itself up after all these millennia.
Now how do you get that? Is it impossible that homosexuality actually brings benefits to the table? Like caring for orphaned children, and such? It could be recessively genetic, too, for the record. It doesn't have to make you breed like bunnies to bring a positive benefit...and it's not like we CAN'T reproduce, either...we just have to do it Catholic-stlye (No enjoyment, procreative only) or a very expensive jerk-off.

Let me explain: If life originated because of evolution, it was an accident - matter, energy, space and time working in random chaos.
And what if we were all just an accident? Why is that such an anathema to you?! And how do you jump from homosexuality to the origins of the universe?!

When *I* have an accident - say I spill my milk all over the table, I get up, I go into the kitchen, I grab some towels, I come back, and I clean up the accidental spill.
Yeah, and...? Accident doesn't always mean worthless. Aren't you the ones that are all up in arms about women aborting the Oops kids?

If life truly IS an accident, maybe homosexuality is nature's way of wiping up the mistake to finally, once and for all, get rid of human life!
Because ten percent of the population not churning out one litter after another is gonna spell the doom of mankind. Right...

But if you DO believe in evolution, then you must understand that homosexuality is counter productive to the propagation of the species, so it is in violation of the evolutionary process.
Because people gathering more resources for a group without adding to the strain is always a bad thing.

Personally, I do NOT believe in evolution. I believe that God designed us, and just as you don't go putting peanut butter in the carburetor of your car because it violates the operating specs that Ford Motor Company (or Chrysler, or who ever) wrote to keep the vehicle running properly, likewise, homosexuality is in violation of the operating specs of the human species.
So my homosexuality affects you in any way...how? Does it make your ovaries shrivel up and die? Does me fucking a guy cause your uterus to spontaneously combust? So then how do you get off making my actions an effect on all mankind?

And please, PLEASE don't point to what animals do - if you've already lowered yourself to the level of an animal, I pity you! I'm more than mere animal. I have a soul. Did you lose yours?
No, but if love is considered immoral to you, I question the state of yours. YES, I implied homosexuality is more than just base fucking. What is the world coming to?

So, let's get this controversy over once and for all, and just STOP! (I promise I won't put peanut butter in the carburetor of my car because it violates the design specs of the manufacturer. But you, too, must promise to not violate the design specs of OUR manufacturer!)
How about you go about your own business, and keep your ear off your floorboards, your eye off my keyhole, and your hands out of my garbage. What I do is my business. BY YOUR DOGMA, it is between me, and God. You. Fuck. Off.

8/29/2008 7:32:56 PM

Old Viking

Life didn't originate because of evolution. Evolution describes how species change after life originated. So your whole argument here collapses very quickly.

8/29/2008 7:37:37 PM

Grigadil

Some people are street-legal, some are customized hot rods. Whatever makes you happy.

8/29/2008 7:53:18 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Universal Translator:

Please dont point out any contradicting evidence against me..but Im an ignorant fuck!

8/29/2008 8:07:17 PM
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