Let me first say that I don't condone the genocide American Indians. I think it was a very bad thing that it happened and a very sad chapter in our history. But maybe for the good of the entire world, it had to be... This is the reason God told the Isralites to anaihlate the people living in the promised land because if they didn't, they would end up adopting their pagan religion. If the USA had adopted at its birth a hybrid Christian-Native American religion, do you still think we would have become a great nation?
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Given that the Native Americans as a whole generally had a more egalitarian, democratic society than the whole of Europe at the time, yes, I think we might have become a great nation, perhaps even better than we are now. If the whites and Native Americans had learned to work together and accept each other's differences and even incorporated each other's way of life into theirs, we all might have been the better for it.
Even if this were not the case, it still doesn't excuse the genocide and horrible maltreatment of the Native Americans or the genocide committed by the Israelites in the Bible. Do you know how many people in history have excused horrible acts because they claimed that what they were doing was for "the sake of progress?" Stalin? Hitler? Mao? Any of these guys ring a bell?
But maybe for the good of the entire world, it had to be...
Try telling that to the Native Americans, past and present. They were part of that world and still are. Besides, many American Indians today have a "hybrid Christian-Native American religion." And the U.S. is NOT a Christian nation, so don't attribute whatever you see as America's greatness to its Christianity.
Come to think of it, I think it would have been kind of cool if the U.S. had been a mix of both Native American and European cultures and ideals at its founding. Unfortunately, we can only imagine how it might have turned out because of the genocide that this insensitive idiot so breezily dismisses as a "necessity."
This is the reason God told the Isralites to anaihlate the people living in the promised land because if they didn't, they would end up adopting their pagan religion.
Aww... Is their faith really THAT shaky?
If we had realized these were cultural myths that we both developed seperately and neither side demanded they be recognized as truth or forced on others,,,,sigh,,,what a world we may have
"Let me first say that I don't condone the genocide American Indians."
Okay. Give your house away to the Amerindian Nation of your home state.
...what's that? You won't? Well then. You do condone what was done to them.
"This is the reason God told the Isralites to anaihlate the people living in the promised land because if they didn't, they would end up adopting their pagan religion"
Two Words: New Zealand.
"If the USA had adopted at its birth a hybrid Christian-Native American religion, do you still think we would have become a great nation?"
Yes. One not destroyed by the poison of right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity.
Next question.
If the USA had adopted at its birth a hybrid Christian-Native American religion, do you still think we would have become a great nation?
Well, actually... I think it would be a little better, personally. Then again, being a Canadian, it doesn't really apply to me, but eh..
Let me first say that I don't condone the conquest of Celtic Britain. I think it was a very bad thing that it happened and a very sad chapter in our history. But maybe for the good of the entire world, it had to be.
Let me first say that I don't condone the expulsion of the Romano-British. I think it was a very bad thing that it happened and a very sad chapter in our history. But maybe for the good of the entire world, it had to be.
Let me first say that I don't condone the enslavement of the Danes and Anglo-Saxons. I think it was a very bad thing that it happened and a very sad chapter in our history. But maybe for the good of the entire world, it had to be.
See where this is leading? The end doesn't justify the means.
"What pansies the Israelites and the Europeans. To lose their faith because of their neighbours."
Actually, the Europeans had already lost their faith once because of their neighbors. Most of northern Europe was Aesir before the Middle Eastern faith of Christianity was brought to them. Sure, it was quite a few hundred years ago, but still...
However, you are aware that the Israelites were Jews, aren't you? They did their best to annihilate the first Christians.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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